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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2018, 08:46:00 PM »
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Let's just conveniently ignore the fact Frazier said he did not pay too much attention to the way Oswald was carrying the bag.


Nobody is ignoring that. It only means he could have been wrong, not that he was.
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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2018, 08:49:24 PM »
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So you are claiming that in the 90 second scenario that the WC created LHO also had time to wipe down the rifle completely?

Tell us how 'as quickly and [as] best he could' equates with 'completely'
Unlike you, it seems Oswald could walk and chew gum* at the same time.

*for CTers: so-to-speak
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2018, 10:02:10 PM »
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Nobody is ignoring that. It only means he could have been wrong, not that he was.

Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2018, 10:14:31 PM »
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Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.


Frazier described the bag as flimsy during the first DPD interoggation. That's day 1 evidence? You know, the kind of stuff LNs normally prefer! Just because he didn't repeat it every time he was asked later doesn't mean he was wrong. You can spin this every way you like, but, despite all the efforts from the DPD, FBI and the Warren Commission, from day 1 until now, Frazier has always denied that the bag found at the TSBD was the one he had seen Oswald carry.
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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2018, 03:57:00 AM »
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Frazier described the bag as flimsy during the first DPD interoggation. That's day 1 evidence? You know, the kind of stuff LNs normally prefer! Just because he didn't repeat it every time he was asked later doesn't mean he was wrong. You can spin this every way you like, but, despite all the efforts from the DPD, FBI and the Warren Commission, from day 1 until now, Frazier has always denied that the bag found at the TSBD was the one he had seen Oswald carry.

That's day 1 evidence? You know, the kind of stuff LNs normally prefer!
>>> LOL All this time I've seen you lot as the ones clinging to same-day stuff. To wit: Fifty five years later CTers seem to prefer the same-day Dr. Perry presser to his later testimony confirming his lack of knowledge re any back wound that day. 
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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2018, 02:39:43 PM »
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Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.

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Frazier described the bag as flimsy during the first DPD interoggation.

Cherry pick much?


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Marina testified in front of the HSCA that no pressure was placed on her to testify a certain way.

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Oh well, that settles it then.
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Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.


Is it your claim that the TSBD was wrapping their books in grocery store bags?

Btw earlier in our conversation this was discussed;

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There is something I wonder about, though. You seem to have swallowed the WC/HSCA findings hook, line and sinker and are clearly of the opinion that the case against Oswald has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so what exactly are you doing here? Why are you wasting so much time and energy in discussing and defending a case which you feel has already been solved? And why do you feel does a case proven beyond a reasonable doubt need to be defended?

I have already stated why I'm here.


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Another classic LN claim, but I'll play along. Show me please where you stated that??


As expected you overlooked ignored my request, so I'll ask again; Show me please where you stated that.....
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2018, 07:05:31 PM »
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Is it your claim that the TSBD was wrapping their books in grocery store bags?

Btw earlier in our conversation this was discussed;

As expected you overlooked ignored my request, so I'll ask again; Show me please where you stated that.....


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Then why are we here?  And change 'evidence' to circumstantial evidence because that is all there ever was [except for Marina's bogus statements]Sounds are audible to all and any life so yes, it does...make a sound


I'm here because the topic is super interesting. Although I'm convince the Warren Commission got it 96% right there's still much to learn. It's like having an interest in military history. I know who won and what happened but there's a lot more to it than that.

As to the evidence all being circumstantial that's not true. there's a lot of direct evidence in the shooting of Officer Tippitt but circumstantial evidence is good too. Oh, and I believe that Marina's testimony is considered direct evidence as is LMR and BWF.

And yes! It does make a sound. Point being that even though no one except Frazier saw Oswald carrying a paper bag it doesn't mean Oswald didn't carry the paper bag into the TSBD.

Is it your claim that the TSBD was wrapping their books in grocery store bags?



 :D I don't believe that even you would treat this as a serious inquiry.

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Is it your claim that the TSBD was wrapping their books in grocery store bags?

 :D I don't believe that even you would treat this as a serious inquiry.


Humor me...

or do you require further explanation why I am asking you this?

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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2018, 06:39:54 PM »
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Is it your claim that the TSBD was wrapping their books in grocery store bags?

 :D I don't believe that even you would treat this as a serious inquiry.


Humor me...

or do you require further explanation why I am asking you this?


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