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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2018, 07:47:55 PM »
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The original observation made by Frazier of the sack being "cheap, crinkly, thin paper sack" was amended by Frazier on 12/1/1963 https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0214a.htm
and discarded by the time he testified in front of the WC. Relying on the flimsy paper bag is an exercise in futility.


By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2018, 08:04:05 PM »
By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

Clever fellow, that Buell..

Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2018, 08:24:00 PM »

Or Oswald wiped the rifle clean of prints (as quickly and best he could) while making his way across the sixth floor towards the stairs.


How do you know that?

So you are claiming that in the 90 second scenario that the WC created LHO also had time to wipe down the rifle completely?

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Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2018, 08:39:10 PM »
By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact Frazier said he did not pay too much attention to the way Oswald was carrying the bag.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2018, 08:46:00 PM »

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact Frazier said he did not pay too much attention to the way Oswald was carrying the bag.


Nobody is ignoring that. It only means he could have been wrong, not that he was.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2018, 08:49:24 PM »
So you are claiming that in the 90 second scenario that the WC created LHO also had time to wipe down the rifle completely?

Tell us how 'as quickly and [as] best he could' equates with 'completely'
Unlike you, it seems Oswald could walk and chew gum* at the same time.

*for CTers: so-to-speak
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Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2018, 10:02:10 PM »
Nobody is ignoring that. It only means he could have been wrong, not that he was.

Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2018, 10:14:31 PM »

Then why didn't Frazier describe the bag as thin and crispy when he was given the opportunity during his testimony before the WC, huh! Because it was like a bag one gets at a grocery store. His words.


Frazier described the bag as flimsy during the first DPD interoggation. That's day 1 evidence? You know, the kind of stuff LNs normally prefer! Just because he didn't repeat it every time he was asked later doesn't mean he was wrong. You can spin this every way you like, but, despite all the efforts from the DPD, FBI and the Warren Commission, from day 1 until now, Frazier has always denied that the bag found at the TSBD was the one he had seen Oswald carry.
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