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Offline Nicholas Turner

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Re: At The End Of The Day....The Question is:...
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2018, 08:06:02 AM »
Or Oswald wiped the rifle clean of prints (as quickly and best he could) while making his way across the sixth floor towards the stairs.

If Lee Had been duped into believing that he was playing the same game he had played at Walker's  in April ( a hoax that was supposed to look like Lee had tried to shoot JFK) then he wouldn't have bothered to wipe his prints off the carcano.... After all it was supposed to be his rifle and he knew there was a paper trail that lead to him.....So wiping away any prints would have been silly and unnecessary.   

Only someone who knew the plot was to actually murder JFK would not have wanted his prints on the rifle.

If is a big word.

Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2018, 06:17:18 PM »
The question is: How did that Mannlicher Carcano get into he TSBD??   

The prime witness Buell Frazier swore that Lee Oswald carried a brown paper sack that was no longer that 27 inches and it was made from light weight flimsy brown paper.  Obviously there was no disassembled, 35 inch,  eight pound rifle in that flimsy bag.

But there isn't a shred of doubt that a carcano was found well hidden beneath pallets of books on the sixth floor of the TSBD.

Who smuggled the carcano into the TSBD, and who hid that rifle beneath those pallets of books ?

The original observation made by Frazier of the sack being "cheap, crinkly, thin paper sack" was amended by Frazier on 12/1/1963 https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0214a.htm
and discarded by the time he testified in front of the WC. Relying on the flimsy paper bag is an exercise in futility.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2018, 07:47:55 PM »

The original observation made by Frazier of the sack being "cheap, crinkly, thin paper sack" was amended by Frazier on 12/1/1963 https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh24/html/WH_Vol24_0214a.htm
and discarded by the time he testified in front of the WC. Relying on the flimsy paper bag is an exercise in futility.


By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: At The End Of The Day....The Question is:...
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2018, 08:04:05 PM »
By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

Clever fellow, that Buell..

Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2018, 08:24:00 PM »

Or Oswald wiped the rifle clean of prints (as quickly and best he could) while making his way across the sixth floor towards the stairs.


How do you know that?

So you are claiming that in the 90 second scenario that the WC created LHO also had time to wipe down the rifle completely?

Offline Oscar Navarro

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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2018, 08:39:10 PM »
By all means, let's just ignore the minor detail that Frazier has rejected the bag found at the TSBD as the one he saw Oswald carry from day 1 until now.

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact Frazier said he did not pay too much attention to the way Oswald was carrying the bag.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: At The End Of The Day....The Question is:...
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2018, 08:46:00 PM »

Let's just conveniently ignore the fact Frazier said he did not pay too much attention to the way Oswald was carrying the bag.


Nobody is ignoring that. It only means he could have been wrong, not that he was.
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