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Author Topic: How Could LHO Walk One Mile After Leaving His Room & Shoot A Cop In 13 Minutes?  (Read 3170 times)

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Where was he going at nearly 4 miles an hour and how come no one ever noticed this Mr Blitz at nearly a jog before the shooting?
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12:54 PM: LHO exits the cab in the 700 block of Beckley.
1:00 PM: LHO arrives on foot at his rooming house, where he retrieves his pistol.
1:03 PM: LHO leaves the rooming house.
1:16 PM: LHO shoots Officer J.D. Tippit and continues fleeing.
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Sources.....Bugliosi, Vincent. Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy. New York: W. W. Norton, 2007.---Epstein, Edward Jay. Legend: The Secret World of LHO Harvey Oswald. New York: Reader's Digest Press/McGraw-Hill, 1978----Manchester, William. Death of a President. New York City: Harper and Row, 1967.------McMillan, Priscilla Johnson. Marina and LHO. New York City: Harper and Row, 1977.------Posner, Gerald. Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK. New York: Random House, 1993; Anchor Books, 1994.-----Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy with 26 volumes of testimony and exhibits. Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1964.
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Note... Only 6 minutes after the shooting, a suspect description was broadcast by police dispatch. Amazing  Miraculous work!!!
I've asked about all this before and there has been no explanation except- it just simply happened that way.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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These times are all cherry-picked assumptions anyway.  Whaley originally said that he picked up his fare at 12:30 and took him to the 500 block of North Beckley.  Markham, Bowley, Higgins, and Tippit's permit for autopsy all put Tippit's shooting as much as 10 minutes earlier than 1:16.


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They forgot to have the guy stand around at the bus stop first.

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They forgot to have the guy stand around at the bus stop first.

They did. How long is he supposed to have stood around?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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They did. How long is he supposed to have stood around?

Let's say, for argument's sake, two minutes. That would have him leaving the bus stop at 1.05 (in the timeline of the OP) and gives him exactly 11 minutes to get to 10th Patton to shoot Tippit at 1.16 pm after having talked to him!

But wait, didn't Dale Myers argue that Tippit was really shot at 1.14.30 ?  ::)

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Let's say, for argument's sake, two minutes....  ::)

Let's say, for argument's sake, half a minute...

Offline Anthony Clayden

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I think a full movement re-enactment would be very interesting..

From the 2nd floor encounter onwards.

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Looking at the timeline above...

12:31:30 PM: LHO is confronted in the lunchroom by Patrolman Marrion Baker. The
superintendent of the building, Roy Truly, vouches for LHO, and he is released.
12:33 PM: LHO leaves the TSBD by the front door (presumed).

In 90 secs, he purchases a Coke, then walks across the 1st floor in no hurry, goes down a flight of stairs, (probably) points out the phone to a journalist, reportedly gets seen by Campbell, retreives his jacket  and then pushes past the crowd at the front of the building (filled with people like BWF, who know him), alwhilst taking swigs from his Coke, as he has finished the Coke by the time he gets to the bus.

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Online Nicholas Turner

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Let's say, for argument's sake, two minutes. That would have him leaving the bus stop at 1.05 (in the timeline of the OP) and gives him exactly 11 minutes to get to 10th Patton to shoot Tippit at 1.16 pm after having talked to him!

But wait, didn't Dale Myers argue that Tippit was really shot at 1.14.30 ?  ::)

You can't say it was two minutes though. It could have been seconds. Who knows.
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Offline Steve Howsley

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I think a full movement re-enactment would be very interesting..

From the 2nd floor encounter onwards.

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In 90 secs, he purchases a Coke ... he has finished the Coke by the time he gets to the bus.

90 secs is a very long time to operate a vending machine with just one product to select. Try holding your breath for 90 secs or see how far you can walk in 90 secs. I can heat a can of beans in my microwave in 90 secs. Getting a coke? I'd say less than 20 secs even in a clunky machine.

How long does it take to point in a general direction and say "over there" or WTTE? I could do it without breaking stride.

How do we know that he finished his coke?

How do we know that he didn't jog part of the way from his rooming house? No one reported seeing him walking, crawling or sprinting. Maybe there was something on TV that would explain why he seemed to go unnoticed.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 09:01:36 PM by Steve Howsley »

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