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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #450 on: October 26, 2018, 05:16:44 PM »
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   As I stated previously, the man in the Altgens Photo is Not the man in the Croft photo. The man in the Altgens Photo has a Contrasting DARK/WIDE band around his LIGHT colored hat.The gentleman you are referring to in the Croft Photo does Not display a Contrasting DARK/WIDE band in the upper head area. For comparative reference, this same man in the Croft Photo DOES display an easily identifiable/ Contrasting DARK BELT vs his LIGHT Colored Slacks.

Storing whether you like it or not, rather you accept it or not--whichyou do not accept it--the man in all three images is the same man.  Are you going to claim that the man to hat man's right, whose raised (waving) arm can clearly be seen in Altgens, and Croft isn't the same man in Croft, too, while you are at it?  In Croft, hat man is holding his hat in his right hand, waving at the president.  So you are just wrong. 

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #451 on: October 26, 2018, 05:17:59 PM »
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Like I said...Go to the south side of Elm photos and you will find him...The man standing on the wall is seen in Storing's photo on the left...

 There is no man standing on the wall. 

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« Reply #452 on: October 26, 2018, 05:21:38 PM »
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #453 on: October 26, 2018, 05:30:15 PM »

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #454 on: October 26, 2018, 06:09:28 PM »
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Storing whether you like it or not, rather you accept it or not--whichyou do not accept it--the man in all three images is the same man.  Are you going to claim that the man to hat man's right, whose raised (waving) arm can clearly be seen in Altgens, and Croft isn't the same man in Croft, too, while you are at it?  In Croft, hat man is holding his hat in his right hand, waving at the president.  So you are just wrong.

      If this is the same man explain why the Croft Photo did Not capture Any of the Dark/Wide Hat Band we easily see on the Altgens Photo? The Fact the Croft photo DID capture that same man wearing a Contrasting Dark Belt vs his Lightly Colored pants makes it Obvious that the photo should also then display a Contrasting Dark/Wide Band wrapped around a Lightly colored hat. The Croft Photo does Not display an iota of a Dark/Wide hat band. It is clear the Croft Photo is Not showing the same man we see in the Altgens Photo. The Fact there are multiple controversies already surrounding this same Altgens Photo in addition to this man being frequently Cropped Out of the Photo is no coincidence.   

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« Reply #455 on: October 26, 2018, 06:11:29 PM »
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The "hat" man is seated on the wall next to a man dressed in dark clothing, whose hand and arm can clearly be seen in Altgens to hat man's right, and there is a woman seated next to the man in dark clothing.  All three are in the same position in Croft and the Towner  and the woman is of course not in the Altgens photo because she is out of frame.



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #456 on: October 26, 2018, 06:48:08 PM »
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      If this is the same man explain why the Croft Photo did Not capture Any of the Dark/Wide Hat Band we easily see on the Altgens Photo? The Fact the Croft photo DID capture that same man wearing a Contrasting Dark Belt vs his Lightly Colored pants makes it Obvious that the photo should also then display a Contrasting Dark/Wide Band wrapped around a Lightly colored hat. The Croft Photo does Not display an iota of a Dark/Wide hat band. It is clear the Croft Photo is Not showing the same man we see in the Altgens Photo. The Fact there are multiple controversies already surrounding this same Altgens Photo in addition to this man being frequently Cropped Out of the Photo is no coincidence.

  You didn't read carefully what I said. In Croft, hat man has hit hat in his right hand, saluting the president.  Can't you see that light colored object in his raised hand above him that is between Croft and the tree?  His hat is not on his head, Storing.  I pointed that out in my last comment.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #457 on: October 26, 2018, 08:34:47 PM »
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That's where Robin has her, West of Millican, Walt.

(You must forgotten that Robin reversed the Zap frame in the composite.)

I didn't forget...I never knew that Robin had reversed the Zap frame....   WHY??   Did he reverse the image?

Nobody has shown anything to refute Altgens photo which shows Chaney on his motorcycle ALONGSIDE the Lincoln......
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« Reply #458 on: October 26, 2018, 08:37:23 PM »
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  You didn't read carefully what I said. In Croft, hat man has hit hat in his right hand, saluting the president.  Can't you see that light colored object in his raised hand above him that is between Croft and the tree?  His hat is not on his head, Storing.  I pointed that out in my last comment.

   Thank you for Confirming that there is No Hat atop the man's head in the Croft photo. There is Something in his (R) hand which is Round/Circular in shape. This shape would be akin to a Drinking Glass, Tall Can, or Stein. I do Not see any trace of anything resembling the Contrasting Wide/DARK Band we see in the Altgens Photo. This consistently Uniform circular shape from its' top all the way down to its' bottom = this being a Solid Object. This is Not the Hat we see in the Altgens Photo.   

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #459 on: October 26, 2018, 08:42:50 PM »
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I didn't forget...I never knew that Robin had reversed the Zap frame....   WHY??   Did he reverse the image?

    This is Exactly why I continue to urge those that ALTER JFK Assassination Images to place a notation on the Image that they have done so. Whether intentional or accidental, the ALTERING of JFK Assassination Images continues to hinder the solving of this case.

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