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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #430 on: October 25, 2018, 07:34:29 PM »
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    Does anyone know WHERE the Man in the HIGH Upper Left Hand Corner of the above photo is physically positioned inside Dealey Plaza? This guy is wearing a Hat with a wide black band around it. The gentleman appears to be standing much Higher than the people on the sidewalk beneath him. If you draw a line from the top of his Hat to the right, he appears to be at roughly the same level/height as the alleged Billy Lovelady who is standing at the TOP of the steps leading into the TSBD.  Is this guy possible standing atop something? I know to the Rear of the light pole/hard hat man, there is the Thornton Sign & a Tree. I am Not aware of a man wearing a hat standing in this general area as the JFK Limo passed by. He appears to be standing at too High a level to be on the sidewalk which runs from the shelter to Elm St, or standing somewhere along the Elm St Annex. It is also Strange that he is Completely Alone at this Height in whatever the area of Dealey Plaza he is supposed to be positioned in. His inclusion in this Photo does Not appear to be Natural in MANY respects. This Altgens photo is one of the multitude of JFK Assassination images which are routinely Cropped.

Royell, he could be standing on the slope at the very end of the Grassy Knoll. The foreshortening is caused by the zoom lens Ike Altgens used.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #431 on: October 25, 2018, 09:06:39 PM »
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Royell, he could be standing on the slope at the very end of the Grassy Knoll. The foreshortening is caused by the zoom lens Ike Altgens used.

     I have Not found him on Any other assassination photos/films. The Light colored hat vs the Wide Dark Band should stand out. The further toward the end/bottom of the Knoll you place him the closer to street level his position becomes. Bronson captures a very lengthy portion of the wall from the Shelter toward Elm, (high ground), including the area behind that section of the wall = No Hat Man. The Croft photo shows the very end of the wall/Elm St and a few people sitting atop that wall where the Knoll grass ends. The Hat Man is Not visible in this general area either. There are Many questions surrounding this frequently Cropped photo including Altgens challenging the WC regarding his physical position inside Dealey Plaza when he took the photo.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #432 on: October 25, 2018, 09:36:17 PM »
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Is this image printed in reverse ?   



This is the image you would see looking from west to east  ( from the GK toward Houston street.)  Who took this photo?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #433 on: October 25, 2018, 10:45:06 PM »
Your reponse does not address the point of my post. My point is the image you posted showing all those people pointing to the back of the head was phony crap. I think you did not address my critic because you cannot.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #434 on: October 25, 2018, 10:58:37 PM »
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    Where is this guy in the Upper Left Hand Corner of the Altgens Pic, (wearing a Hat with a wide black band), situated inside Dealey Plaza?  His appearing in this Elevated position on a photo that is frequently Cropped is puzzling.



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #435 on: October 26, 2018, 04:04:36 AM »
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Robin, could this be the guy in the helmet?

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if so it would make your female character wrong.

Yes, that is the same man A.J.Millican.
and my positioning of the woman in the blue dress is correct.

I reversed the Zapruder crop so as to match the same order in which we see the bystanders ( starting from right to left )

Lady in blue on the other side of the light pole first, then Millican, etc:

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« Reply #436 on: October 26, 2018, 04:13:11 AM »
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JohnM

Correct John.


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #437 on: October 26, 2018, 04:27:32 AM »
Willis 5

(Right to left)  lady in the blue dress, then Millican etc:

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« Reply #438 on: October 26, 2018, 04:48:59 AM »
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     Still waiting for someone to ID the gent in the Upper Left Hand Corner of the Altgens Photo above and reveal where his physical position is on the Knoll. He is wearing a Light colored hat, (Not a hard hat), with a contrasting Wide/DARK band around it. He appears on No other JFK Assassination Images that I am aware of. Is this guy Another Unknown JFK assassination eyewitness or is he only present on the often Cropped & Controversial Altgens Photo?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #439 on: October 26, 2018, 04:53:47 AM »
Spectators lined up on the sidewalk.

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