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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #160 on: October 13, 2018, 05:07:25 AM »
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        What did I tell you? Now they are Forced to move Chaney North into the slow lane. They moved him (E)/Backward, and Now they also want move him (N)/toward the Knoll. Just remember when doing this Hokey Pokey with Chaney that the Chism Family with their little kid are standing in the street/slow lane. Chaney was assigned the position closest to the (R) passenger side of the Limo. Jackson was assigned to be on the outside/(R) of Chaney. If Chaney is moved into the slow lane, then Jackson is positioned close to the curb and heading straight at the Chism Family. Chaney's motorcycle headlight continues to be a flat-out killer for the Chaney Movers and Shakers.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #161 on: October 13, 2018, 05:28:41 AM »


                 This visual aide is a complete Joke. How wide is the slow lane?
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #162 on: October 13, 2018, 07:31:17 AM »
                 This visual aide is a complete Joke. How wide is the slow lane?

You can't read a map, you haven't got a clue, why do you bother?



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #163 on: October 13, 2018, 08:08:11 AM »
Andrew, all I see in 307 is Hargis and Martin. Chaney's front fender becomes visible at 310 in the extra area below the bottom sprocket hole. But 3 seconds have elapsed since frame 255 which aligns with Alrgens 6 so it does not offer any usable info.
The tip of a motorcycle front fender is just becoming visible in z309, which is actually part of the exposure for z308.  The whole wheel becomes visible a few frames later.

It is interesting that we never see Jackson in the zfilm.  But Jackson and Chaney are riding side by side up Houston as seen in Hughes' film. So can we not assume that in the zfilm Jackson is always out of view to the left side of the frames? In z308 and after we could be seeing Jackson's motorcycle. 

In earlier frames, e.g. 193 we see Chaney on the right side at a position that appears to be well ahead of the QM security car an possibly up to the back of the President's car.  Is it not possible that Jackson was farther ahead?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #164 on: October 13, 2018, 08:26:46 AM »
Jackson was supposed to ride behind and to Chaney's right. The Nix film shows Him behind Chaney till some point after the head shot.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #165 on: October 13, 2018, 02:09:09 PM »
The tip of a motorcycle front fender is just becoming visible in z309, which is actually part of the exposure for z308.  The whole wheel becomes visible a few frames later.

It is interesting that we never see Jackson in the zfilm.  But Jackson and Chaney are riding side by side up Houston as seen in Hughes' film. So can we not assume that in the zfilm Jackson is always out of view to the left side of the frames? In z308 and after we could be seeing Jackson's motorcycle. 

In earlier frames, e.g. 193 we see Chaney on the right side at a position that appears to be well ahead of the QM security car an possibly up to the back of the President's car.  Is it not possible that Jackson was farther ahead?

"In earlier frames, e.g. 193 we see Chaney on the right side at a position that appears to be well ahead of the QM security car"

In Altgens #6  The front bumper of the QM is nearly touching the rear bumper of the Lincoln......And Chaney and his motorcycle  is alongside the Lincoln.

Robin this photo is a MUCH wider view than Altgens .... #6 right side was at the SW corner of the Daltex...and the Left side was at tyhe west edge of the fourth window from the SE corner of the TSBD.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #166 on: October 13, 2018, 03:20:23 PM »
Jackson was supposed to ride behind and to Chaney's right. The Nix film shows Him behind Chaney till some point after the head shot.
In the Nix film, I don't see either Chaney or Jackson until after the head shot and at that point they appear to be side-by-side. They then appear to slow down as the car takes off with Chaney slowing down more rapidly as Jackson appears to go ahead.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #167 on: October 13, 2018, 03:25:07 PM »

          Notice how they Now run away from the Altgens Photo? It remains the PROOF In The Pudding. Their Pirate Maps, their diagrams with Guesses as to the position of Altgens, etc = Deflection. They can Not get away from the Chaney Motorcycle Headlight being Unobstructed/visible on the Altgens Photo. Case Closed