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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #110 on: October 09, 2018, 09:55:30 PM »
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Your line would place Officer Chaney at Any point upon it. That line therefore does place Officer Chaney alongside the JFK Limo.

Yes, and if that line is inaccurate and rotated only a couple of degrees  counter clockwise it's entirely possible to fit Chaney's bike in that area.

    This is why I brought up Altgens under oath disputing the position the WC assigned him on Elm St.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #111 on: October 09, 2018, 10:06:49 PM »
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Chaney supposedly gunned his motorcycle, and spoke to Currie while the Currie car was under the overpass.

More fairy tales, i suppose you Alterationist loonies think that Chaney was erased from  Altgens 7 and the Bell and zapruder films

No Chaney here  :D





Robin, it might contradict the film but too many good witness saw him ride forward and that the motorcade was stopped at the time. Chaney and both agents in the back seat and Curry confirm it happened in the plaza not on the onramp. The story that it happened on the onramp is full of problems and I will post a thread on it. Several of the bike cops in front of Curry also witness Chaney's ride forward. While it is hard to see how they could have altered the film we can't write off such consist testimony either. If they did take out the limo stop from the film they would have to take out Chaney's ride forward too because if the limo does not stop there is no time for Chaney to ride forward.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2018, 12:22:05 AM »
Robin, frame 234 verifies that Chaney is visible and those two streaks are the front of his bike. Because the image is more the front of the bike than the side we can be sure it is pretty far back along the LOS. Not next to JFK

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #113 on: October 10, 2018, 12:40:33 AM »
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Agreed  :)

BUT in reference to Altgens 6 we need to look at frame Z-255

theses guys are saying that Chaney was next to kennedy in Z-255
therefore in their Alterationist universe Chaney's reflection in the Limo should also be present in frame Z-255

Please identify... "These guys".....

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #113 on: October 10, 2018, 12:40:33 AM »

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #114 on: October 10, 2018, 12:49:05 AM »
John Mytton's map of reflection angle illustrates an important point. Even with this steep angle the bike would not fit next to the limo. The bike extends 19 inches (I think I said 17 elsewhere, that was a lie.)  to each side of that line. The width of the limo is 78 inches. So take 1/4 of the width of the limo and see where you can make that length fit in between the limo and the line representing the angle of reflection. I think you will find it has to be back by the rear bumper.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #115 on: October 10, 2018, 12:53:02 AM »
Yes Robin, the point I was addressing is the idea about reflections and why we do see Chaney in the reflection when he is not alongside the car.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #116 on: October 10, 2018, 01:21:07 AM »
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You know who you are, and so does everyone reading this thread

If one of these guys is Walt Cakebread ( me) then you're attributing something to me that I'm not sure is true.   

I do believe it is very easy to confuse readers by posting pictures that are akin to an ink blot...

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #117 on: October 10, 2018, 05:17:15 AM »
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All i see in Z-255 is some white streaks ?

I am waiting Storing  ::)

show us this CLEAR image of a motorcycle reflected in the side of the Limo. ????



    The claim was Z-233. It's on page 1 of this thread. This is why law enforcement along with the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community for 54+ years have Failed to solve this case. Their attention to Detail was/is sorely lacking.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #118 on: October 10, 2018, 12:38:11 PM »
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To my eyes the reflection in frame Z-234 appears to show a portion of Chaney's front tire and white tire fender, also the left side "red" flashing light, indicating how far back he was in relation to the Limo.

The front tire and fender of Chaney's bike can be seen just to the right of Umbrella man's umbrella....

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #119 on: October 10, 2018, 03:32:13 PM »
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The front tire and fender of Chaney's bike can be seen just to the right of Umbrella man's umbrella....

    You're onto them Walt and they do Not like it.  The Visual Aid CARTOON provided above is the JFK Old Guard Research Community once again stating an Opinion as if it were fact. They sit around and do their blah, blah, blah as a group, come up with conclusions based on Pure Conjecture and Cartoonish based thinking, and then run around spouting it off as being fact. The same goes for their repeatedly claiming we are seeing Officer Chaney underneath the Triple Underpass on the McIntire Photo. Pure Hob Gobbled Opinion brought to us by the Same Community Of Minds that repeatedly rubber stamped/echoed the mis ID of Mumford for close to 40 years. Their track record is absolutely horrendous and continues to stymie the solving of this case.   

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