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Online John Mytton

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2018, 10:20:50 PM »
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      As we see on the autopsy face sheet and the autopsy photo, the wound is Not in the, "base of the right side of the Neck"

The injuries as seen in the autopsy photos can be joined and calculated to go on to Connally's elliptical wound in the front and back to Oswald's sniper's nest in the rear.



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2018, 10:25:06 PM »
If I would have questioned the West map at first it would have save  me some hassle. The marker is correct in other maps but i found on overhead photo taken within a month or so and it proved the West map wrong.
I believe Altgens was standing 6 feet into the street as the West map shows and multiple lines of sight confirm.
  As far as I can see you are right about the 3rd window and it seems to jive with what  I measured? You said he was at the curb, did you mean exactly or was he in the street according to your measurements?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2018, 10:48:56 PM »
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 The closest we can come to locating Chaney's position is to do a line of sight from above. Using the West map I found Chaney could not be next to JFK because the line of sight puts him within  about one foot of the lime which is too close. His bike would be be in contact with the limo.


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Even though these GIFs aren't absolutely accurate down to a foot and were made when I was just learning 3D they adequately demonstrate that for Chaney to be in that line of sight relative to Altens camera, places Chaney uncomfortably close to Kennedy's Limo.





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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2018, 10:55:15 PM »
Walt, I just took some more photos and retested this and it does in fact change the angle when you move from directly in front towards the side. The angle changed(decreased) by about 20 degrees. I was not duplicating the angles exactly so the 20 degrees is just a sample result but it demonstrate the change is dramatic. I also compared a photo from above to the photo i took directly in front. Going from above to approx 10 feet away and 5 feet high changed it from 20 to 60 degrees, then moving off to the side decreased it back to around 40 degrees.
 So the actual measurement taken from above was 20. At a distance of 10 feet and 5 feet high changed it to 63 degrees. At 10 feet away and 5 feet high and moving off to the right of center(directly in front of the limo) reduced the angle by 20 degrees back to 40 degrees.

EDIT: I said 5 feet high but forgot it was on a table, so 2 feet high is correct. This is why my result had some extra unexplained distortion.
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« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2018, 01:00:02 AM »
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Mr Davidson.....Would would please post the north area of Robert West's map of Dealy Plaza?  Can you post the area from the TSBD to about 100 feet south of the TSBD?

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2018, 03:03:26 AM »
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The injuries as seen in the autopsy photos can be joined and calculated to go on to Connally's elliptical wound in the front and back to Oswald's sniper's nest in the rear.



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             Stop the dodge.  The autopsy face sheet & the autopsy photo clearly display a wound in the BACK of JFK. Ford's wording placed the wound at the, " base of the right side of the NECK".  Indisputable Hanky Panky by the would be POTUS.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2018, 04:39:55 AM »
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             Stop the dodge.  The autopsy face sheet & the autopsy photo clearly display a wound in the BACK of JFK. Ford's wording placed the wound at the, " base of the right side of the NECK".  Indisputable Hanky Panky by the would be POTUS.


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2018, 04:56:57 AM »
Here is the West map for reference. Ignore the L.O.S. i have Altgens at,  it was off by 4 feet.

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2018, 01:26:53 PM »

This is waaaay to crammed with information and misinformation....

Would someone please post the map as West created it......

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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