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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #460 on: October 26, 2018, 08:51:28 PM »
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The "hat" man is seated on the wall next to a man dressed in dark clothing, whose hand and arm can clearly be seen in Altgens to hat man's right, and there is a woman seated next to the man in dark clothing.  All three are in the same position in Croft and the Towner  and the woman is of course not in the Altgens photo because she is out of frame.



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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #461 on: October 26, 2018, 08:55:37 PM »
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   Thank you for Confirming that there is No Hat atop the man's head in the Croft photo. There is Something in his (R) hand which is Round/Circular in shape. This shape would be akin to a Drinking Glass, Tall Can, or Stein. I do Not see any trace of anything resembling the Contrasting Wide/DARK Band we see in the Altgens Photo. This consistently Uniform circular shape from its' top all the way down to its' bottom = this being a Solid Object. This is Not the Hat we see in the Altgens Photo.

There is Something in his (R) hand which is Round/Circular in shape. This shape would be akin to a Drinking Glass, Tall Can, or Stein.

A large stein ......  made to resemble the hub of a wooden wagon wheel....That's what it looks like to me.      But it's hard to believe he would be holding up a beer stein.....

On further review....I'm not sure that is the man wearing the hat in Altgens.....He appears to be wearing sun glasses as he holds up the tankard.
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #462 on: October 26, 2018, 09:02:27 PM »
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Yes, that is the same man A.J.Millican.
and my positioning of the woman in the blue dress is correct.

I reversed the Zapruder crop so as to match the same order in which we see the bystanders ( starting from right to left )

Lady in blue on the other side of the light pole first, then Millican, etc:

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #462 on: October 26, 2018, 09:02:27 PM »

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #463 on: October 26, 2018, 09:08:12 PM »
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The "hat" man is seated on the wall next to a man dressed in dark clothing, whose hand and arm can clearly be seen in Altgens to hat man's right, and there is a woman seated next to the man in dark clothing.  All three are in the same position in Croft and the Towner  and the woman is of course not in the Altgens photo because she is out of frame.



I believe that's Jackies pink pill box hat in the bottom forground of the photo on the right and the back of JFK's head... But they are reversed....


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #464 on: October 26, 2018, 09:10:09 PM »
I did the same thing here.

I reversed the Zapruder crop so as to match the same order in which we see the bystanders ( starting from left to right )


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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #465 on: October 26, 2018, 09:10:53 PM »
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There is Something in his (R) hand which is Round/Circular in shape. This shape would be akin to a Drinking Glass, Tall Can, or Stein.

A large stein ......  made to resemble the hub of a wooden wagon wheel....That's what it looks like to me.      But it's hard to believe he would be holding up a beer stein.....

On further review....I'm not sure that is the man wearing the hat in Altgens.....He appears to be wearing sun glasses as he holds up the tankard.

      No way that is the same man in Altgens and Croft. There is so much controversy with the Altgens photo: (1) Lovelady ID ? (2) Officer Chaney Position? (3) Hat Man ID? (4) Altgens himself challenging the WC position assigned to him on Elm St, = Another JFK Assassination Image that smells like 3 day old Fish.   

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #466 on: October 26, 2018, 09:15:02 PM »
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Try to keep up with the thread Cakebread and Storing.

I posted this comment on page (48)

   Attach your *dislcaimer* to the Altered Photo itself. This way if anyone globs onto that photo the disclaimer tags along. Yelling at people to "keep up" might salve your conscience, but it absolves you of Nothing.

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« Reply #467 on: October 26, 2018, 09:18:37 PM »

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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #468 on: October 26, 2018, 09:25:28 PM »
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   Attach your *dislcaimer* to the Altered Photo itself. This way if anyone globs onto that photo the disclaimer tags along. Yelling at people to "keep up" might salve your conscience, but it absolves you of Nothing.

Only a moron like you would need a disclaimer to tell them that the Zapruder crop had been reversed.
you need to get out more, and do some actual photographic research.

Study the assassination photos and films, maybe then you would recognize a reversed frame when you see it
instead of me having to explain it to you like you were a 10-year old.

And STOP "Bumping the post, just to send it to the top of the forum page"
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Re: Chaney's motorcycle in Zapruder frame Z-242
« Reply #469 on: October 26, 2018, 09:32:47 PM »
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Only a moron like you would need a disclaimer to tell them that the Zapruder crop had been reversed.
you need to get out more, and do some actual photographic research.

Study the assassination photos and films, maybe then you would recognize a reversed frame when you see it
instead of me having to explain it to you like you were a 10-year old.

And STOP "Bumping the post, just to send it to the top of the forum page"

     Stop being crabby. What I Know has nothing to do with the Altering of JFK Assassination Images. Attaching a *Disclaimer* to a Photo YOU have altered takes care of a possible current problem as well as one that may arise down the road.

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