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Author Topic: In 54 years has it ever been proven that CE399 is the bullet found at Parkland?  (Read 2813 times)

Offline Rob Caprio

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From Wikipedia: Marina Oswald Porter

Marina learned of the assassination of President Kennedy from the media coverage of the event, and later, of the arrest of her husband. That afternoon, Dallas Police Department detectives arrived at the Paine household, and when asked if Lee owned a rifle, she gestured to the garage, where Oswald stored his rifle rolled up in a blanket; no rifle was found.

In case you get all cute and suggest the incident proves that the rifle was not in the garage: Marina expected it to be there!!!

In case you try to be even cuter and claim it was some other rifle: The rifle (C2766) in the national archives in Washington is the same one in the backyard photos taken at 214 W. Neely Street Dallas in late March of 1963.

Marina Oswald testified twice that she took the photos of Lee Oswald holding the rifle:

1.) The Warren Commission - 1964
2.) The House Select Committee on Assassinations - 1978

The rifle was taken from Dallas to New Orleans in Ruth Paine's station wagon and returned to the suburb of Irving in Dallas where it lay in a blanket in Paine's garage. Only a "confirmed" contrarian would believe that C2766 was never in the Paine's garage.

Can you provide evidence that shows the Oswalds lived at the Neely Street address?

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Online Joe Elliott

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In 54 years has it ever been proven that CE399 is the bullet found at Parkland?
Originally CTers question if CE399 was found by the stretcher which held Connally.
Now they question if CE399 was found at Parkland.
In ten years, they will question if CE399 was found in Texas.

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If you had a poll attached they would most likely have voted that they provided evidence for CE 399 being found even though they didn't.

No.

Don't confuse your lame ass threads (where you're violently beat over the head with the evidence) with Weidmann's reasonable one.

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Can you provide evidence that shows the Oswalds lived at the Neely Street address?

Stop hijacking Weidmann's thread with your stupidity.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Originally CTers question if CE399 was found by the stretcher which held Connally.
Now they question if CE399 was found at Parkland.
In ten years, they will question if CE399 was found in Texas.

Originally CTers question if CE399 was found by the stretcher which held Connally.

Perhaps they initially just assumed that the bullet Tomlinson found was indeed the one now in evidence as CE399, and only after more information came to light did they start to wonder if that assumption was justified.


Now they question if CE399 was found at Parkland.

Well, was it?

Was the bullet found by Tomlinson the same one that's now in evidence as CE399?
« Last Edit: October 01, 2018, 04:36:05 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Originally CTers question if CE399 was found by the stretcher which held Connally.
Now they question if CE399 was found at Parkland.
In ten years, they will question if CE399 was found in Texas.

CE399 did have a tendency to move around, didn't it.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2018, 04:36:13 AM by Bill Chapman »

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CE399 did have a tendency to move around, didn't it.

Thank you for not answering my very straight forward question. I will put you down as clueless!

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Quote from: Jerry Freeman on September 28, 2018, 05:15:12 PM
  I don't doubt that CE399 is the bullet that was found at Parkland....but how it got there cannot be proven.
    I don't doubt that it was fired from C2766....but when and where cannot be proven.
   
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If you don't doubt that CE399 was fired from C2766: How was Oswald's Carcano rifle obtained from the Paine's garage and put back there?
Now we went from moving a bullet around to moving a rifle around.
The only claim that there was a rifle in the garage was forced from Marina. Not Michael ..Not Ruthie..Marina was by this time just not credible. Even the Commission attorneys knew it. So what other proof is there that there was ever a rifle in the Paine garage at any time?
 

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Online Steve Howsley

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Stop hijacking Weidmann's thread with your stupidity.


Honestly that comment from Caprio

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Can you provide evidence that shows the Oswalds lived at the Neely Street address?

shows that rather than assist in advancing the discussion he prefers to throw out an anchor at every turn to try and stifle the discussion by preventing it from moving past square one. Some of these discussions have been around in a circle three times just this year alone.

Offline Bill Brown

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At trial, CE-399 would most likely be determined to be admissible.  Most evidence, if the only issue with it is a questionable chain of custody, is indeed admissible.  It is then left up to the jury to decide how much weight to give a certain piece of evidence with a questionable chain of custody.

The trial judge would admit the bullet.  A questionable chain of custody of CE-399 may affect how much weight the jury gives the bullet but a questionable chain, on its own, does not affect it's admissibility.

The single bullet that passed through both Kennedy and Connally and ended up in Connally's thigh must, at some point, be found somewhere.  Even if this bullet was NOT CE-399, it is a must that this bullet would be found by someone somewhere.  No other bullet has ever been found (in Connally's thigh or elsewhere).  Even if you do not believe in the single bullet theory, the fact remains that a bullet lodged itself in Connally's left thigh.

To any conspiracy advocate, especially the original poster of this thread, have you ever seen any evidence put forth which suggests that a bullet, other than CE-399, was found inside Connally's thigh or anywhere else related to the known movements of the bodies of both Kennedy and Connally?

On the night of the assassination and overnight into Saturday morning, the limousine was searched by the FBI.  They were looking for evidence.  Smaller fragments were found but no intact bullet, like 399, was found.  No other bullet has ever been turned in and placed into the record and this circumstantial evidence alone gets 399 admitted into evidence.

It's up to the jury to decide, based on a questionable chain of custody, how much weight to give CE-399 as the bullet found at Parkland.

Also, it is up to the defense, since CE-399 was linked to Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world, to convince the jury that CE-399 was NOT the bullet found at the hospital.  Has anyone in this forum (or anywhere else) done so?

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