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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2018, 04:15:51 AM »
Have been trying to find more about what was in the metal filing cabinets taken from the Paine house...
Neither Michael or Ruth were asked about these files that contained 'names and activities of Cuban sympathizers'...



 

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2018, 04:15:51 AM »

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2018, 10:11:14 AM »
Ruth Paine is one of the keys to this case.

If Ruth who was a very intelligent eyewitness was so inclined she could have stopped all this BS 54 years ago.

If Ruth said Oswald beat Marina....
If Ruth said Oswald threatened her....
If Ruth said the rifle was in her garage...
If Ruth said Oswald took his blanket covered rifle out for a walk....
If Ruth said that Oswald hated Kennedy...
If Ruth said she heard Oswald plotting to kill Kennedy...
If Ruth said she saw Oswald wrapping his rifle in Brown paper....
If Ruth said she saw Oswald with a long brown paper package on the 22nd....

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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2018, 12:18:22 PM »
It seems like Ruth was up to her eyeballs in the goings-on of this plot to kill JFK . She was CIA . No doubt !

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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2018, 12:18:22 PM »

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2018, 03:13:50 PM »
.... Ruth who was a very intelligent eyewitness... 
Evidence?

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 05:32:23 PM »
Not strange at all. She heard that Oswald had ordered the rifle and later noted it in the calendar. Nothing unbelievable about that.

On October 23rd??

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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 05:32:23 PM »

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2018, 03:12:08 AM »
If Ruth who was a very intelligent eyewitness was so inclined she could have stopped all this BS 54 years ago.

If Ruth said Oswald beat Marina....
If Ruth said Oswald threatened her....
If Ruth said the rifle was in her garage...
If Ruth said Oswald took his blanket covered rifle out for a walk....
If Ruth said that Oswald hated Kennedy...
If Ruth said she heard Oswald plotting to kill Kennedy...
If Ruth said she saw Oswald wrapping his rifle in Brown paper....
If Ruth said she saw Oswald with a long brown paper package on the 22nd....

JohnM

She could have made a bunch of unsupported claims like Marina did, but it wouldn't have made LHO guilty.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2022, 10:06:46 AM »
I understand that Mrs. Paine added the note ?LHO purchase of rifle? to the top of the March 1963 page after November 22, 1963, after she learned about this from others.

Can anyone prove that she wrote this note before November 22, 1963? And not after the police returned the calendar to her?

It is important to note that the burden of proof is on the CT side. They are claiming that Mrs. Paine knew of the rifle before November 22. So, they must prove this not was written before November 22, 1963. Otherwise they have no proof.
The burning question to me is not "Did Mrs Paine write "the rifle was purchased" on the calendar before Nov 22?
The question I have is why did she even write something like that on her calendar at all?
It seems really like such a senseless thing to do.

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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2022, 12:10:30 AM »
The burning question to me is not "Did Mrs Paine write "the rifle was purchased" on the calendar before Nov 22?
The question I have is why did she even write something like that on her calendar at all?
It seems really like such a senseless thing to do.

Not senseless for an FBI informer.....  She knew that Lee had ordered the rifle and she wanted to tell the FBI on their next visit to her house...Thus she made the note in March on her calendar.

PS..... The notation in the upper left corner of Ruthie's calendar does not look like "Nov 23"  ......It seems to be Oct 23.  The last letter is definitely a "T" .... And the abbreviation  for November  (Nov) does not end with a "T'
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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2022, 12:49:20 AM »
Not senseless for an FBI informer.....  She knew that Lee had ordered the rifle and she wanted to tell the FBI on their next visit to her house...Thus she made the note in March on her calendar.
Were that true then she would have written...'Oswald orders guns'
Hidell 'ordered' the guns [allegedly]
The Red Herring-------------


https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-the-carbine-on-the-6th-floor

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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2022, 01:01:09 AM »
Were that true then she would have written...'Oswald orders guns'
Hidell 'ordered' the guns [allegedly]
The Red Herring-------------


https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-the-carbine-on-the-6th-floor

Were that true then she would have written...'Oswald orders guns'

I'm not following .... I don't understand.....

WHY?   Would Ruthie have written Oswald orders "Guns".....

There's no evidence that Marina told Ruthie about her foolish husband ordering "Guns".... At at time when they barely had enough money to exist.   I believe that Marina did complain to Ruthie about Lee spending money for a rifle....

 

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