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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2018, 10:13:47 PM »
Sadly this is the standard and behavior of those that support the WC's conclusion. They can say whatever they want and refuse to support it. In fact, they tell you to find the cite or supporting information yourself.

OTOH, those that don't support the WC's conclusion are expected to cite endlessly for the statements that they make.

The truth is "6.5" is a caliber. There is no "6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano" cartridge as the WC misleadingly stated and that is why Mr. Turner won't even try to support it.

There is no "6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano" cartridge

Rob... Extract your head....  There most certainly is a 6.5mm Mannlicher Carcano Cartridge.......  It was manufactured by the millions to be used in the Italian Mannlicher Carcano rifles.   And there are dozens of other rifles that fire a 6.5mm bullet (projectile)  They have a bore of 6.5mm ....But the casing for those other 6.5 rifles is different than the Mannlicher Carcano Shell.   The shell (casing) that the bullet ( projectile) is seated in for the Mannlicher Carcano is commonly stamped 6,5 Carc to identify it as being designed to be fired in the 6.5mm Mannlicher Carcano.

   

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2018, 10:30:48 PM »

The truth is "6.5" is a caliber. There is no "6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano" cartridge as the WC misleadingly stated and that is why Mr. Turner won't even try to support it.

They are definitely not interchangeable. There are many 6.5 cartridges, but the 6.5/.264 bullet is the only common physical trait shared by them. Ballistics may be very similar with some of the loads such as 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 Lapua and .260 Remington. When compared to 6.5 Swedish Mauser, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Arisaka and other variants they are very different.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-6-5-Creedmoor-and-a-6-5-Grendel-Are-both-rounds-interchangeable

Many of the 6.5 rounds share a similar case capacity to the Creedmoor, though not interchangeable.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/11/6-5-creedmoor-ammo/#axzz5THawkCFz

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2018, 10:35:58 PM »
They are definitely not interchangeable. There are many 6.5 cartridges, but the 6.5/.264 bullet is the only common physical trait shared by them. Ballistics may be very similar with some of the loads such as 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 Lapua and .260 Remington. When compared to 6.5 Swedish Mauser, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 Carcano, 6.5 Arisaka and other variants they are very different.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-a-6-5-Creedmoor-and-a-6-5-Grendel-Are-both-rounds-interchangeable

Many of the 6.5 rounds share a similar case capacity to the Creedmoor, though not interchangeable.

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/11/6-5-creedmoor-ammo/#axzz5THawkCFz

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Is there an answer as to who the LHO lookalike was in here?

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2018, 10:53:26 PM »
Is there an answer as to who the LHO lookalike was in here?

The shells were determined not to be from Oswald's rifle. What's next?

Btw why wouldn't the "crooked" FBI say it was Oswald, this would "prove" that Oswald practiced at Penn's pasture!

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2018, 12:37:45 AM »
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The truth is "6.5" is a caliber. There is no "6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano" cartridge as the WC misleadingly stated and that is why Mr. Turner won't even try to support it.
Oh, geez...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5%C3%9752mm_Carcano


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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2018, 01:12:05 AM »
Oh, geez...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5%C3%9752mm_Carcano

If anybody was under the impression that Rob Caprio was honest man of character.....  This thread should be a real "eye opener" , and dispel that illusion.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2018, 03:02:40 AM »
The shells were determined not to be from Oswald's rifle. What's next?

Which rifle was linked to LHO with supporting evidence? None. So what was "Oswald's rifle?"

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why wouldn't the "crooked" FBI say it was Oswald, this would "prove" that Oswald practiced at Penn's pasture!

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Probably because they knew that they couldn't place him there. Why do all these sightings with LHO lookalikes not give you pause?

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2018, 03:08:17 AM »
Oh, geez...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5%C3%9752mm_Carcano

Oh geez indeed. You are not interested in the *actual topic* of this thread, but came rushing to the defense of Turner. Why is that?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2018, 03:53:06 AM »
Probably because they knew that they couldn't place him there. Why do all these sightings with LHO lookalikes not give you pause?

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Probably because they knew that they couldn't place him there.

Exactly, Oswald can only exist in one place at one time so what's the point of an LHO lookalike?

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Why do all these sightings with LHO lookalikes not give you pause?

Famous lookalike sightings are a dime a dozen.



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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn?s Pasture?
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2018, 05:24:14 AM »
Oh geez indeed. You are not interested in the *actual topic* of this thread, but came rushing to the defense of Turner. Why is that?
The topic got addressed when it was noted that:

1.) The shell Penn gave to the FBI wasn't fired from Oswald's rifle
2.) It was made by SMI and not by WCC
3.) The mystery man only "resembled" Oswald from the front. He didn't look like Oswald in profile.

With no other evidence, there is no good reason to assume that it could have been Oswald in the first place.

 

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