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Online Joe Elliott

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 03:28:12 AM »
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Hidell's rifle. Oswald's 'prints' were not found on it.
Also, there is no such thing as a Mannlicher-Carcano cartridge. A study there for the interested....
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“Hidell’s rifle”. And Oswald had a fake ID on him listing his name as “Hidell”.

And Oswald’s palmprints were found on the rifle by the Dallas Police.

The FBI failed to find any prints on the rifle, but this is irrelevant. If you had an expert lift the prints off an object, pass the object on to a second expert to life the prints, and so on, until ten experts have attempted to lift prints, you are not going to find that all ten experts successfully lifted the prints. Typically, the prints can only be lifted once, maybe twice. And firearms, which is ‘oily metal’ can be difficult to successfully lift prints even the first time. So, it’s natural that the first lifting of prints made it impossible for someone else to successfully lift prints.

If this is in error, name a single fingerprint expert, anywhere in the world, who disputes this.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2018, 03:34:17 AM »
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Didn't the documents that Tom posted say that they did investigate and that the shells didn't match, what's left to do after that?

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Dig up the pasture and shift all the dirt for other possible cartridges. Maybe they might find the body of the real Oswald. Check to see if any of the cattle were forced to swallow any cartridges. Resume the investigation after Andrew “Andy” Penn died to see what he really died of and to take reports of any suspicious characters seen in the neighborhood in the weeks before he died. There are a lot of things they could have done.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2018, 04:13:16 AM »
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  And Oswald had a fake ID on him listing his name as “Hidell”.
So the story goes...a supposed alias ...Why would he have and keep this if he knew it linked him to weapons?  Show some inquisitiveness.
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And Oswald’s palmprints were found on the rifle by the Dallas Police.
So the story goes...the partial palm print is being discussed in the Walker thread....have a glance. Why do people have a complete trust in a police department that they never knew?  Man...the cops were in on it.
 

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2018, 07:19:14 AM »
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“Hidell’s rifle”. And Oswald had a fake ID on him listing his name as “Hidell”.
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So the story goes...a supposed alias ...Why would he have and keep this if he knew it linked him to weapons?  Show some inquisitiveness.
Why are prisons filled with men who overlooked some detail? Show some logic.

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And Oswald’s palmprints were found on the rifle by the Dallas Police.
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So the story goes...the partial palm print is being discussed in the Walker thread....have a glance. Why do people have a complete trust in a police department that they never knew?
So, we should not follow the evidence? Because we should assume the evidence is all faked. But if we do so, truth is determined by what we believe. The evidence, the real world, will have no influence on what we believe. It doesn’t matter what the fingerprint evidence is. Because if it goes against our bias, it is assumed to be faked.
And I am asked to make these assumptions. by the same people who I know lied to me. Who showed me false diagrams of the Single Bullet Theory. And who, to this day, give excuses as to why they do not disproved the Single Bullet Theory, by showing two simple orthogonal diagram, of the situation at z222, which would disproved this theory, if the theory is false.

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Man...the cops were in on it.
So, you are obviously a believer not in a Small-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy. You are a believer in a Large-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy. Something no skeptic, no logical person, believes in.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2018, 01:36:16 PM »
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So, you are obviously a believer not in a Small-Secret-Enduring Conspiracy. 
Believe what you want.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2018, 07:45:12 PM »
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The problem is....   You don't aren't smart enough to know BS from sterling.....  And you're not smart enough to know that you're lacking.   

If I valued your opinion I would be concerned.

Since you don't know me, it must really bother you that your intelligence is my common sense.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2018, 10:29:01 PM »
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Oswald’s rifle was found in the sniper’s nest. Oswald’s prints were on the rifle. The bullets that killed President Kennedy were ballistically matched to that rifle. And Oswald fled the scene within five minutes.

But the key to this case is finding out who fired a shot in Mrs. Lovell Penn’s pasture.

You'll notice that there are NO cites in this post because these are UNSUPPORTED claims made in the WCR. Nothing more.

The WC was terrified to explore issues like this one because it only led down conspiracy road.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2018, 10:33:07 PM »
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Dig up the pasture and shift all the dirt for other possible cartridges. Maybe they might find the body of the real Oswald. Check to see if any of the cattle were forced to swallow any cartridges. Resume the investigation after Andrew “Andy” Penn died to see what he really died of and to take reports of any suspicious characters seen in the neighborhood in the weeks before he died. There are a lot of things they could have done.

LNers can't deal with a question so they bring up nonsense like this. They want you to believe nothing is odd or suspicious.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2018, 10:33:07 PM »


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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2018, 10:34:54 PM »
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If I valued your opinion I would be concerned.

Since you don't know me, it must really bother you that your intelligence is my common sense.

You forgot to list those facts that you claimed existed. No surprise there.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2018, 10:44:04 PM »
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You forgot to list those facts that you claimed existed. No surprise there.

The known facts are better than the BS unsupported theories you utter.

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Re: Who Was The Man Who Fired A Shot In Mrs. Lovell Penn’s Pasture?
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2018, 10:44:04 PM »