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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2018, 01:10:19 PM »
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Perhaps you would like to tell us seeing as Jerry couldn't, John.

"Tell us how the witnesses who saw the President shot in the shoulder, not the neck,  got it wrong."

Still waiting for an answer from Mytton.

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2018, 01:10:19 PM »


Online Jerry Organ

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2018, 02:03:21 PM »
Still waiting for an answer from Mytton.
Specify your witnesses along with a brief quote or summation for each.

By "shoulder", I take it to mean a location four inches or further from the midline in the shoulder mass.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2018, 08:32:18 PM »
Humes (the wound mover) is the one who said the back wound was a shallow wound . The only wound that transversed the body of JFK was the bullet that hit him in the right temple and blew out the back of his head .

Tell us how to get a finger into the small wound channel produced by FMJ ammo

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2018, 08:53:29 PM »
Those who refuse to explain where the bullet went after it hit President Kennedy's upper-back and came out his neck beneath the adam's apple are "implying" the missile stayed inside his body.
Since it did not hit bone or anything else that was capable of applying a lateral force of sufficient magnitude to signficantly change the bullet's direction, it must hhave continued in a straight line. The question is: what was on that line?

 The correct answer to that question depends on when the bullet struck JFK. If it struck at z223 or so it could not have struck JBC in the right armpit.  Even if the tumbling bullet was able to somehow miss striking JFK's hands, the trajectory goes too far to the left side of JBC. If it struck after z191 and before z202, as the evidence strongly indicates, other possibilities arise.

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2018, 11:01:40 PM »
Since it did not hit bone or anything else that was capable of applying a lateral force of sufficient magnitude to signficantly change the bullet's direction, it must hhave continued in a straight line. The question is: what was on that line?

 The correct answer to that question depends on when the bullet struck JFK. If it struck at z223 or so it could not have struck JBC in the right armpit.  Even if the tumbling bullet was able to somehow miss striking JFK's hands, the trajectory goes too far to the left side of JBC. If it struck after z191 and before z202, as the evidence strongly indicates, other possibilities arise.

'Even if the tumbling bullet was able to somehow miss striking JFK's hands..'

Tell us how JFK would be able raise his hands up fast enough to intercept a supersonic bullet travelling back-to-front through his neck.
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Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2018, 04:50:25 AM »
Those who refuse to explain where the bullet went after it hit President Kennedy's upper-back and came out his neck beneath the adam's apple are "implying" the missile stayed inside his body.
Certainly the only logical argument put forward by the WC was to have a magic bullet introduced to make 7 wounds in total.  This bullet needed to be found and came to be known as CE399 and introduced to support a lone gunman scenario.  It appears to be a FMJ (full metal jacket) that tumbled out of the abdomen and lost a few grains in JC's leg! His muscular leg rejected the rest onto the gurney where it was found later, although a few grains did somehow leave the bullet during its tumble and penetrated the leg - narrowly missing the femoral artery!
The car was never examined as a crime scene and a thorough examination top to bottom was never undertaken by photograph.   The SS moved it away, just like they did JFK's body very quickly.  I believe the neck wound (covered up conveniently by a tracheostomy) was in fact an entrance wound.   The bullet exited out the back side and into the car, possibly upholstery behind his back.  There were only 3 shots claimed to have occurred and the first one was a wild shot that hit somewhere on the road - no pictures of damage of it had been seen - only reports!  No one was sure if he missed the car by 2 inches or by 20 feet!
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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2018, 02:43:26 PM »
'Even if the tumbling bullet was able to somehow miss striking JFK's hands..'

Tell us how JFK would be able raise his hands up fast enough to intercept a supersonic bullet travelling back-to-front through his neck.
He did not have to raise his hands at all. His hands were already in front of his chest. Look at where his hands are when he emerges from behind the sign (frame z224). Then look at the path from his neck tie knot where the bullet emerged to JBC's right armpit. How does it miss his hands or forearms?
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Re: If a bullet passed straight through Connally, why not Kennedy?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2018, 05:09:47 PM »
He did not have to raise his hands at all. His hands were already in front of his chest. Look at where his hands are when he emerges from behind the sign (frame z224). Then look at the path from his neck tie knot where the bullet emerged to JBC's right armpit. How does it miss his hands or forearms?




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The right hand appears to me to be over the car-rail in Z224, after-which it redirects towards the chin and body mid-line. Even if the raised right hand were at the President's mid-line in Z224, the trajectory of SBT shot fired from the SN would pass beneath the right hand.