If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?

[Howard Gee]

You can not make that deduction in regards to CE 399 going through JFK. The bullet that penetrated JFK in his upper back was not tracked by dissection of the neck organs. That's a fact. The evidence from physical examination of JFK by the prosectors, and witnessed by two FBI agents, pointed to a shallow wound of entrance. The use of a metal probe failed to penetrate beyond the shallow wound despite JFK's lungs being removed. The bullet that struck JFK in his upper back could well have been "defective" and had less powder to propel the bullet at full velocity or it hit something in line with the trajectory to sufficiently slow it down.

JFK was given cardiac massage and it was possible that the bullet had dislodged without anyone noticing it as he never was turned over at Parklands.

Sorry Tony, but you're making this much more complicated than it really is, hence your confusion. Try to stay focused and follow along.

We know the bullet that hit JFK in the back didn't fall out during cardiac massage and go undiscovered in his casket or in sheets at Parkland, here's why;

We can definitively prove the bullet that entered his back had to exit his throat by the process of elimination.

Once again, since there is no exit wound for a bullet that would have entered JFK's throat and no bullet was found in his neck we must conclude that the throat wound was an exit wound.

Let that sink in.

Anterior throat entry is impossible because there is no exit wound for a frontal entry throat shot and no bullet found in the neck.

You're not going to seriously postulate that a bullet entered JFK's throat and fell out during cardiac massage too, are you ?

Sorry, but we absolutely CAN deduce that 399 transited JFK.

SINGLE BULLET FACT

[Andrew Mason]

I do believe we are making some progress here.

Since you don't believe 399 was planted, then how do you suppose it was found at Parkland ?

It certainly didn't fall off of JFK's gurney as that gurney was still in the trauma room that JFK was cooling off on.

Therefore, we know by the process of elimination that 399 must have been the bullet that wounded JBC. How else could it have gotten there ?

CE399 was a bullet that wounded JBC.  But that does not necessarily mean it caused all his wounds. It is possible, if not probable, his wounds were caused by separate bullets.

Now, let's deal with JFK's back/throat wound.

Since we know that no bullet was found in JFK's neck, we know that the throat wound had to be an exit wound.

We know this by the process of elimination. Since there is no exit wound for a bullet entering JFK's throat, and no bullet found in his neck, the inescapable conclusion is that the bullet which struck him in the back had to have exited through his throat, causing that wound.

This isn't speculation, it's fact.

So now we have established that a bullet entered JFK's back, passed through him, and exited his throat.

Next, we must ask what happened to the bullet that passed throught JFK.

Since there is no bullet found in the limo, we must conclude that the bullet that passed through JFK, went on to wound JBC, and was the one recovered at Parkland, CE399.

How else could it have happened ?

As I've said before, the application of a little common sense and logical deductive reasoning is all that's necessary to arrive at the SINGLE BULLET FACT.

Logic alone does not solve facts. Evidence helps. 

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second. JBC never realized that he was struck in the thigh or the wrist until the next day.  It is not uncommon for people to be hit by bullets and not realize it. The trajectory through JFK's neck goes to JBC's left.  There was only one wound on JBC's left side. The wound characteristics of the thigh wound are consistent with the condition of CE399 if it struck butt-first.  For some unknown reason, no one has ever even considered that possibility, let alone rejected it. 

[Howard Gee]

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second.

Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.

What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

[Ray Mitcham]

Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.

No good assuming something which you can't prove.

What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

[Howard Gee]

No good assuming something which you can't prove.
Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

Already did that, Ray. Read my posts above.

[Jerry Organ]

CE399 was a bullet that wounded JBC.  But that does not necessarily mean it caused all his wounds. It is possible, if not probable, his wounds were caused by separate bullets.

Andrew is holding off on his "Big Reveal". He has a theory that he baits people with by saying LNers don't need the SBT (the SBT is Mason's b?te noire).

Logic alone does not solve facts. Evidence helps. 

When it comes to his theory, Mason casts off all logic and evidence. Basically, he contents that the first shot occurred about Z197-Z200 (it varies). This bullet transited the President's neck and then emerged from the throat to bypass the left side of Connally's torso and embed itself into Connally's thigh. This should answer Howard Gee's question to Mason: "What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?"

Mason's SketchUp treatment of first-shot trajectory through JFK neck and into JBC thigh; and my overlay of positions

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second. JBC never realized that he was struck in the thigh or the wrist until the next day.  It is not uncommon for people to be hit by bullets and not realize it.

Connally's unaware that he's been hit in the thigh. Andrew even has ballistics studies that supposedly show a bullet passing through soft tissue similar to Kennedy's neck would have slowed enough that it couldn't have passed through the thigh or break a bone there. And he's got a few examples of people who were shot who didn't know it until later. Apples and oranges.

The trajectory through JFK's neck goes to JBC's left.  There was only one wound on JBC's left side. The wound characteristics of the thigh wound are consistent with the condition of CE399 if it struck butt-first.  For some unknown reason, no one has ever even considered that possibility, let alone rejected it.

We've been considering your moonbat-crazy theory for years. And aggressively rejecting it. Pretend all you want.

[Gary Craig]

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[Howard Gee]

Who said it had exited? No one proved that the upper back wound was connected to the wound in the throat.

I proved it in my posts above.