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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #330 on: September 11, 2019, 11:37:22 PM »
Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
How did LHO choose the TSBD as his workplace?

JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE
Why He Died and Why It Matters
by James W. Douglas

page 47

"In that March 29, 1977, interview, the last he would ever give, George de Mohrenschildt told author
Edward Jay Epstein he had "on occasion done favors" since the early 1950s for goverment officials
connected with the CIA. It was a mutually beneficial relationship. The CIA contacts then helped
de Mohrenschildt arrange profital business connections overseas.

De Mohrenschildt said that in late 1961 he had met in Dallas with the CIA's J. Walton Moore, who
began to tell him about "an ex-American Marine who had worked in an electronics factory in Minsk
for the past year and in whom there was "interest". The Baron had grown up in Minsk, as Moore seemed
to know before being told. The ex-Marine, Moore said, would be returning to the Dallas area. De
Mohrenschildt felt he was being primed.

In the summer of 1962, de Mohrenschildt said, he was handed Lee Harvey Oswald's address in Fort Worth
by "one of Moore's associates," who suggested that de Mohrenschildt meet Oswald. De Mohrenschildt
then phoned Moore to confirm such a mission and set up another mutually beneficial relationship. He
told Moore he would appreciate help from the U.S. embassy in Haiti in arranging approval by Haitian
dictator "Papa Doc" Duvalier for an oil exploration deal. Moore then gave de Mohrenschildt the go-ahead
to befriend the Oswlds, which de Mohrenschildt promptly did--with the firm understanding that he was
carrying out the CIA's wishes. "I would never have contacted Oswald in a million years if Moore had
not sanctioned it," de Mohrenschildt said in his final interview. "Too much was at stake."

On October 7, 1962, nine days before the Cuban Missle Crisis began, de Mohrenschildt urged his new
friend Lee Harvey Oswald to move to Dallas, where more of the Russian immigrants lived. Oswald took
him so seriuosly that the next day he quit his job at a Fort Worth welding company and made the
move. De Mohrenschildt then became Oswald's mentor in Dallas. The Baron's wife and daughter said it
was he who organized Oswald's securing a new job, four days after his move, with a Dallas graphic
arts compoany. Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall."


~snip~

p.177

"On October 9, 1963, one week before Lee Harvey Oswald began his job at a site overlooking the president's future parade route,
an FBI official in Washington, D.C., disconnected Oswald from a federal alarm system that was about to identify him as a threat to
national security. The FBI man's name was Marvin Gheesling. He was a supervisor in the Soviet espionage section at FBI headquarters.
His timing was remarkable. As author John Newman remarked in an analysis of this phenomenon, Gheesling "turned off the alarm switch
on Oswald literally an instant before it would have gone off."


~snip~



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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #330 on: September 11, 2019, 11:37:22 PM »

Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #331 on: September 12, 2019, 11:14:13 AM »
Doesn?t this strike anyone as quite odd?  I mean generally if you want to try and get away with a crime I would imagine it would help to do it where NO ONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE!  In 1963 they did NOT have the type of equipment they have now to quickly ID you and track you via GPS and other methods, so if you are unknown this greatly increases your chances of getting away with it!  As for the claim of ?Well he wanted to be famous? we have to go by his behavior after he was arrested! Did it strike anyone as wanting to be famous?

Also, the excuse DVP gave me years ago for not committing the crime at Love Field was that he couldn?t get his rifle there without being seen!  First of all, he didn?t need ?his? rifle (something I don?t think ever existed by the way) as he could have used a pistol instead and that could have easily been hidden from a cab driver (much better than a bus scenario as again it creates less people who can remember you). 

Secondly, don?t you think the SAME logic applies to getting a ride from Wes Frazier and then lugging the rifle two to three blocks to the TSBD and then lugging it around until you hide it in the TSBD for later use?  These were people who KNEW you too by sight and in some cases by NAME!

Also, it would seem DP was a much tougher place to get away from.  At the airport he could have dropped the gun and disappeared into the crowd and then even got on a flight out of town.  This sounds much more plausible than the OFFICIAL scenario to me.

When one adds in the fact LHO was NOT very good with a rifle this would seem to make this the ONLY scenario to me.

What are your thoughts on this?

Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

But to answer your question ("Why would LHO choose his workplace as the location for shooting JFK?"), maybe because the TSBD was a tall building on the motorcade route, he had access to the building (he worked there), there were boxes to hide behind on the sixth floor, etc?

Gosh, I dunno.

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Online Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #332 on: September 14, 2019, 08:49:57 PM »
Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

But to answer your question ("Why would LHO choose his workplace as the location for shooting JFK?"), maybe because the TSBD was a tall building on the motorcade route, he had access to the building (he worked there), there were boxes to hide behind on the sixth floor, etc?

Gosh, I dunno.

-- MWT  ;)
I figured out how Oswald did not hit Walker - because he did not even attempt to. That was an easy answer. People waste too much time on the stuff he was not guilty of, just like the assassination, he never shot at the limo.

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« Reply #332 on: September 14, 2019, 08:49:57 PM »

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« Reply #333 on: September 14, 2019, 09:15:07 PM »
I figured out how Oswald did not hit Walker - because he did not even attempt to. That was an easy answer. People waste too much time on the stuff he was not guilty of, just like the assassination, he never shot at the limo.

"I figured out how Oswald did not hit Walker - because he did not even attempt to."

Bravo!!, You're right, Peter.... Lee did not try to hit Walker ( If Walker was actually in that room when lee put he bullet through the window)  The whole affair was a hoax to make it appear that Lee had tried to shoot one of Castro's most vocal foes...

"People waste too much time on the stuff he was not guilty of, just like the assassination, he never shot at the limo."

It's definitely NOT a waste of time for the government agents who are assigned to propagate the official tale, as released by the US government in the Warren Report.

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #334 on: September 14, 2019, 09:25:50 PM »
Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

But to answer your question ("Why would LHO choose his workplace as the location for shooting JFK?"), maybe because the TSBD was a tall building on the motorcade route, he had access to the building (he worked there), there were boxes to hide behind on the sixth floor, etc?

Gosh, I dunno.

-- MWT  ;)

Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

What a self serving and  ambiguous statement.....  It's akin to saying that you're plenty good with driving a car so you think you'll enter the Indy 500....

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #335 on: September 15, 2019, 12:07:54 AM »
Oswald was plenty good with a rifle.

What a self serving and  ambiguous statement.....  It's akin to saying that you're plenty good with driving a car so you think you'll enter the Indy 500....

Oswald was rated above average by marine standards which by genpop standards would be excellent

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« Reply #336 on: September 15, 2019, 03:25:40 AM »
Oswald was rated above average by marine standards which by genpop standards would be excellent

Oswald was trained with an M-1 Garand which is nothing like a bolt action carcano....  Simply because he qualified with an M-1 does not mean he was qualified as anything above a novice with the Carcano....  You may be qualified to operate a Chevrolet as an expert but I doubt that you could drive one lap in a NASCAR Chevy.

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« Reply #337 on: September 15, 2019, 04:35:28 AM »
Oswald was trained with an M-1 Garand which is nothing like a bolt action carcano....  Simply because he qualified with an M-1 does not mean he was qualified as anything above a novice with the Carcano....  You may be qualified to operate a Chevrolet as an expert but I doubt that you could drive one lap in a NASCAR Chevy.
Hey Walt, Bill's going to argue Oswald was an avid driver.

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« Reply #337 on: September 15, 2019, 04:35:28 AM »

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #338 on: September 15, 2019, 04:45:12 AM »
Oswald was rated above average by marine standards which by genpop standards would be excellent

Ozzie was considered a rather poor shot by the Marine Corp.

They said so in a letter sent from the Marine Corp commandant to the WC.

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Re: Why Would LHO Choose His Workplace As The Location For Shooting JFK?
« Reply #339 on: September 15, 2019, 05:00:44 AM »
Ozzie was considered a rather poor shot by the Marine Corp.

They said so in a letter sent from the Marine Corp commandant to the WC.

There are no "poor shots" in the Marines.

They train on targets 200, 300, and 500 yards away.

https://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/marine-corps-weapons-qualification-course.html

The fatal head shot was about 75 yards from the sniper's next (on the sixth floor of the TSBD), iirc.

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