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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #272 on: September 25, 2018, 01:48:47 PM »
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Given the assembled evidence it would appear that the chicken lunch was found in the SN. This is consistent with every officer mentioned above who appeared on the scene immediately after Mooney. What it tells us is that the assassin shot in a SN with chicken bones an unfinished chicken piece and a lunch sack. Hence the early reports of the "assassin?s lunch". If this belonged to Williams it is logical to assume that he ate the chicken in the open SE corner window and not where he claimed....behind closed windows near to the middle of the building.

Williams lied in his statements. The place where he ate his lunch was one of the things he lied about.

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Offline Colin Crow

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« Reply #273 on: September 25, 2018, 01:50:30 PM »
But I was expecting one from you. Your theory pal, not mine.

Again, not surprised you don't have an answer.

When, where and how did the Stooge Conspiracy begin ?

Patience Howard......it?s virtuous.

I wonder if Dr Spooner would refer to you as a shining wit.

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« Reply #274 on: September 25, 2018, 03:05:11 PM »
Patience Howard......it?s virtuous.

I wonder if Dr Spooner would refer to you as a shining wit.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #275 on: September 25, 2018, 03:22:21 PM »
Patience Howard......it?s virtuous.

I wonder if Dr Spooner would refer to you as a shining wit.

Ah yes...The guy who got his tongue tangled and toasted Queen Victoria by saying ..."Here's to our queer old dean"

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #276 on: September 25, 2018, 03:30:46 PM »
Patience Howard......it?s virtuous.


Colin, this is only page 32 of the thread.

When can we expect an answer from you ? Any time soon ?

When, where, and how did the stooge conspiracy begin ?

Patience is a virtue, so is punctuality.




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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #277 on: September 25, 2018, 06:08:11 PM »
I don't know of anyone who suggested that their time on the 5th floor was just two minutes. Did you have a self-serving motive for knowingly reducing it or just ignorance of the evidence?

Ignorance of the evidence.  Which he then tries to cover by being belligerent.

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #278 on: September 27, 2018, 05:16:25 AM »
Colin, this is only page 32 of the thread.

When can we expect an answer from you ? Any time soon ?

When, where, and how did the stooge conspiracy begin ?

Patience is a virtue, so is punctuality.

You seem to think that my asking a question in the OP was associated with a predetermined answer. This is a common MO and one often associated with this subject in particular. I don't have the answers for you at present but I remain optimistic, with the help of the thoughts of those who have taken time to consider the evidence I have posted, I am still hopeful we can come up with a "best guess". I think at least the "when" may help determine the "where" and possibly the "how".

Might I leave you with this to ponder.....

?The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.?
―  Bertrand Russell,  Mortals and Others: American Essays 1931-35

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Conspiracy of the Three Stooges
« Reply #279 on: September 27, 2018, 07:41:08 AM »
I would not like to address the other question posed by Ball and Belin.

What time did Williams leave the 6th floor?

No witness claimed to see Williams ascend to the 6th floor, other than the untruthful statements of Norman and Jarman, so that we have no way of determining his arrival on the 6th floor. His departure time is more important however as we have seen the discovery of his lunch in the SN places him in the supposed position of the assassin.

We do have some "time-point" events that can be used as markers however as well as rough time estimates. The first such "time-points" is the "elevator race" that occurred when the floor-laying crew left the 6th floor to break for lunch. When all participants statements are considered it is generally accepted that this occurred about 11.50am, 40 minutes before the assassination.

Here are the various statements of Williams as to when the elevator-race took place, when he arrived on the 6th floor, when he left to go to the 5th floor and why he might have departed.

11/22/63 - DPD
Elevator race ?about 10 minutes to 12?
?just after we got to 5th floor we saw the President?
no mention of trip to 6th floor

11/23/63 - FBI

Elevator race about 11.30am
6th floor at noon
No indication anyone on the 5th floor before leaving
Joined Jarman and Norman on 5th floor at 12.03 via the stairs

12/2/63 - SS

Elevator race ?shortly before noon?
Ate lunch on 6th floor for ?just a few minutes?
No indication anyone on the 5th floor before leaving
Joined Jarman and Norman ?prior to 12.15.pm?
 
1/14/64 ? FBI
Elevator race 11.40pm
Heard Jarman and Norman on the 5th floor
Joined Jarman and Norman about 12.05pm  via the west elevator

3/19/64 ? FBI

Elevator race 11.40am
No mention of lunch or joining Jarman and Norman

3/24/64 ? WC
Elevator race 11.50am
Ate lunch ?about noon?
?Well, I thought I heard somebody walking, the windows moving or something. I said maybe someone is down there, I said to myself. And I just went on down.?
Joined Jarman and Norman after 5-12 minutes via east elevator

5/26/64 ? FBI
Elevator race between 11.30 and noon
Left 6th floor between noon and 12.15pm because he ?heard voices below?