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Online Mark Valenti

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2018, 04:49:23 PM »
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Thanks. Yes, I found them at around page 64+.

Possible additional source : Thomas Mallon's "Mrs. Paine's Garage." That has a number of quotes from Ruth (and some from Michael) on conversations with Oswald and, because she spoke Russian, exchanges she overheard between Lee and Marina.

And thanks for the free download.

I might do an updated version  at some point if the omissions build to an embarrassing amount.  When the book first came out it had some good traction on Amazon, but now it's just a slow dribble. I'd rather it be read/utilized than bought at this point.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2018, 08:40:16 PM »
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There's no other way to compile this kind of material except to present it with a caveat. He said this, he suggested that, etc. I'm sure there are purported conversations I missed but my general rule was, if someone quoted him directly, that conversation went into the book. If it was twice or more removed, I left it out.

And in the case of lunatics like Judyth Vary Baker, I used none of her misfit imaginings.

Fair enough, but a bit arbitrary if you included Marina's misfit imaginings.

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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 10:00:41 PM »
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Fair enough, but a bit arbitrary if you included Marina's misfit imaginings.

Not arbitrary if you consider that Marina was married to LHO and Judyth Baker never even met him.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2018, 11:16:06 PM »
Thanks for the download Mark.

I read a bit of it, and noticed you did include some of Lee Oswald's time in Russia. Here's some from an acquaintance I'm not sure if I missed.


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Yakhliel: He spoke Russian with an accent, of course, but we understood him and he understood everything. He came to our house many times. One interesting episode was -- when they say he killed Kennedy -- one day he was at our house and the television was showing a meeting between Khrushchev and Kennedy. You may remember that meeting; I don't remember what year it was exactly. And he spoke about Kennedy very sympathetically. He said he was the only sensible president. Those were his words.


He treated Marina very affectionately when she was [expecting June]. I witnessed that personally. By the way, they walked on foot to Hospital No. 3. She gave birth very quickly. I was at home, and he came running, I heard a knock on the door. I opened the door and he shouted, "I have a daughter! I have a daughter!" He was very happy. By the way, I was the one who gave the girl her first bath. They named her "June Marina" -- they don't have patronymics, like we do, they give newborns their own names and the mother's name.





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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2018, 11:33:24 PM »
Actually they named her June Lee.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2018, 02:48:03 AM »
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Not arbitrary if you consider that Marina was married to LHO and Judyth Baker never even met him.

Judyth Baker never even met him.


How do you know this with any kind or certainty?

Online Mark Valenti

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2018, 03:16:07 PM »
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Judyth Baker never even met him.


How do you know this with any kind or certainty?

Martin, there are some things in this life that are so blindingly obvious that they reside in a special place beyond the traditional requirement of debate and research. The earth is round, water is wet, etc.

One of those truths is that Judyth Baker concocted her entire relationship with LHO and has been foisting this charade on a gullible public for decades.

Even a cursory examination of her claims, going all the way back to the beginning, will reveal that she spun a web of BS, changed her story when new facts arose, made very sloppy mistakes that she later attempted to hide, and when cornered, she created distractions, suggesting someone was trying to harm, detain or otherwise derail her holy crusade.

There are so many red herrings and outright stupidities on the CT side of this case but JVB's fiction is among the most preposterous. Anyone who buys into her sham has the discernment power of a drunken gnat.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2018, 03:17:42 PM »
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Thanks for the download Mark.

I read a bit of it, and noticed you did include some of Lee Oswald's time in Russia. Here's some from an acquaintance I'm not sure if I missed.



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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2018, 06:19:38 PM »
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Even a cursory examination of her claims, going all the way back to the beginning, will reveal that she spun a web of BS, changed her story when new facts arose, made very sloppy mistakes that she later attempted to hide, and when cornered, she created distractions, suggesting someone was trying to harm, detain or otherwise derail her holy crusade.

How does that demonstrate that they never met?  She did work at Reily Coffee Company.

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2018, 09:30:38 PM »
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How does that demonstrate that they never met?  She did work at Reily Coffee Company.

It doesn't demonstrate that they never met.

But because everything else she claims is bogus, I don't *believe* her claim that they even met is true.

She is not a credible person. And it's not my job to parse her lies as to what's outright BS and what might've, kinda, sorta, maybe, could've happened.

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