Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Author Topic: Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket  (Read 73623 times)

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4879
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #460 on: February 09, 2018, 06:29:11 PM »
Why was he living under an assumed name...

Spies are known to occasionally use an alias.....  Lee had been trained as a US intelligence agent ....

But your question is interesting....   When Fritz asked, Lee readily admitted that he was registered as O.H. Lee  at the rooming house.....   He told Fritz that Mrs Roberts made the error when he rented the room...

I don't know if that is true.....  So it raises an interesting question......

WHO was Lee hiding from?....   We know that FBI agent Hosty claimed that was looking for him...and Lee was aware that Hosty was looking for him.....BUT..... Hosty knew that he was working in the TSBD...and Lee tried to contact Hosty when he left the note at the FBI office......

Who was Lee trying to avoid?......

« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 06:30:50 PM by Walt Cakebread »

Online John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8583
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #461 on: February 09, 2018, 06:39:02 PM »
There's no proof of an alternate shooter in CTroll wonderland

...or your shooter for that matter.

Quote
There's no proof that anyone but the killer ( 'random guy' ) knew that an attempt was to be made on Kennedy that day

Who said otherwise?

Online John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8583
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #462 on: February 09, 2018, 06:43:06 PM »
Debatable.  But, even if true, is that somehow supposed to mean that Helen Markham, William Scoggins, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, Ted Callaway and Sam Guinyard actually saw someone other than Oswald?

They very well could have, since invalid lineups are invalid.  But since only one of them actually witnessed a crime, I'm not sure how it matters much who the other people saw.

Offline John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2640
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #463 on: February 09, 2018, 06:58:41 PM »
Debatable.  But, even if true, is that somehow supposed to mean that Helen Markham, William Scoggins, Barbara Davis, Virginia Davis, Ted Callaway and Sam Guinyard actually saw someone other than Oswald?




Yep the chances that Markham would pick a particular random person out of four is obviously 1 in 4, then we have another 5 eyewitnesses who all had an equal chance of 1 in 4 of picking some random dude therefore when totalled means that for all the 6 eyewitnesses to choose the same random guy is close to astronomical!



JohnM

Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3352
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #464 on: February 09, 2018, 07:16:21 PM »

Yep the chances that Markham would pick a particular random person out of four is obviously 1 in 4, then we have another 5 eyewitnesses who all had an equal chance of 1 in 4 of picking some random dude therefore when totalled means that for all the 6 eyewitnesses to choose the same random guy is close to astronomical!

JohnM

You need to watch a video, because you have just made the best case possible for why the line up identifications can not be trusted. The odds of this happening are indeed astronomical!

I'm sure John doesn't mind me borrowing the video.


Once you have done that, get back to us with some rational explanation, if you can.

« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 07:25:48 PM by Martin Weidmann »

Offline John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2640
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #465 on: February 09, 2018, 07:25:13 PM »
You need to watch a video. I'm sure John doesn't mind me borrowing it.


Once you have done that, get back to us with some rational explanation, if you can.




I have already shown you that eyewitnesses saw Lee Harvey Oswald and couldn't positively identify him.

Btw The video wasn't made in Dallas 1963, has nothing to do with a man carrying a revolver, is showing a completely different scenario and is overcast, so what's your point?



JohnM

Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3352
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #466 on: February 09, 2018, 07:28:21 PM »


I have already shown you that eyewitnesses saw Lee Harvey Oswald and couldn't positively identify him.

Btw The video wasn't made in Dallas 1963, has nothing to do with a man carrying a revolver, is showing a completely different scenario and is overcast, so what's your point?


JohnM

I have already shown you that eyewitnesses saw Lee Harvey Oswald and couldn't positively identify him.

How many of the people that attended a line up could not identify him?

Btw The video wasn't made in Dallas 1963, has nothing to do with a man carrying a revolver, is showing a completely different scenario and is overcast, so what's your point?

If you don't get the point, there is no reason to discuss anything with you. A brick wall would get the point the video clearly makes!

Offline Tim Nickerson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #467 on: February 09, 2018, 07:46:37 PM »
Still haven't figured out who "we" is?

And how did Westbrook make the determination that this was exactly the jacket "we" found?

"We" is the DPD officers who were in the parking lot when Westbrook picked the jacket up.

Westbrook was able to make the determination that it was exactly the jacket they found by the laundry tag on the jacket.

Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3352
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #468 on: February 09, 2018, 07:59:14 PM »
"We" is the DPD officers who were in the parking lot when Westbrook picked the jacket up.

Westbrook was able to make the determination that it was exactly the jacket they found by the laundry tag on the jacket.

"We" is the DPD officers who were in the parking lot when Westbrook picked the jacket up.

Would that include the two officers who saw the jacket in bright midday sunlight and described it as white?

And does it include the officer who Westbrook gave the jacket to? Who was that again, Tim, and can he tell us how the jacket got to the station? Gotta name, perhaps?

Offline Tim Nickerson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1799
Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #469 on: February 09, 2018, 08:05:24 PM »
"We" is the DPD officers who were in the parking lot when Westbrook picked the jacket up.

Would that include the two officers who saw the jacket in bright midday sunlight and described it as white?

Yes it would.

Quote
And does it include the officer who Westbrook gave the jacket to?

Of course.

Quote
Who was that again, Tim, and can he tell us how the jacket got to the station? Gotta name, perhaps?

Did Westbrook give the name of the officer who he gave the jacket to?

 

Mobile View