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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #448 on: February 09, 2018, 04:52:20 PM »
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Well done Martin.  You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket by citing testimony where she clearly distinguishes between the two.  Noting that Oswald was wearing a shirt when he arrived and a jacket when he left.   

Not to mention, Earlene Roberts wasn't willing to say whether or not CE-162 was the jacket Lee had on as he left until she was first aware that it was a zipper type jacket.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #448 on: February 09, 2018, 04:52:20 PM »


Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #449 on: February 09, 2018, 05:02:45 PM »
Well done Martin.  You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket by citing testimony where she clearly distinguishes between the two.  Noting that Oswald was wearing a shirt when he arrived and a jacket when he left.   

Only in the closed mind of a LN.

For sane rational people it is beyond obvious that this half blind, not paying much attention, woman isn't really sure of anything at all.

You and Brown can try to spin it as much as you like but with "maybe it was" you haven't got much of anything. 


You have debunked your own claim that Roberts might have confused Oswald's shirt for a jacket

That wasn't a claim. I'm not like you. I don't go round making claims I can not support. It was a suggestion of a possibility at best.

You rely on a woman who (1) is blind in one eye, (2) was paying more attention to the TV and thus had her back turned toward the living room, (3) could not have seen Oswald for more than a blink of an eye as he walked the short distance between his room and the front door and (4) isn't sure of anything. Add to it that her employer described her to the WC as somebody who makes up stories and you have one hell of witness....
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #450 on: February 09, 2018, 05:10:48 PM »
Only in the closed mind of a LN.

For sane rational people it is beyond obvious that this half blind, not paying much attention, woman isn't really sure of anything at all.

You and Brown can try to spin it as much as you like but with "maybe it was" you haven't got much of anything.


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For sane rational people it is beyond obvious that this half blind, not paying much attention, woman isn't really sure of anything at all.

No.  This is a flat out lie.

If it's one thing Roberts was sure of, it's that whatever Oswald was wearing as he went out the door, he was zipping it up.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #451 on: February 09, 2018, 05:47:44 PM »
So all of those people saw Oswald wearing a jacket.  Regardless of what color they said that jacket was, they still saw him wearing one.  Why would he ditch the jacket?

Who's "he"?

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« Reply #452 on: February 09, 2018, 05:53:43 PM »
This is why it's so easy, on one hand you endorse Markham as a Screwball then you use her as your eyewitness?

She was a screwball.  That doesn't entitle you to misrepresent what she did say by cherry-picking "light short jacket" and ignoring everything else.

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Btw show me one murder case in the history of the world where the killer was freed because of a slight clothing shade variation?

Then why are you even bothering to make a case (badly I might add) that they all saw a light-colored jacket?

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She was looking directly at the jacket and positively identified it and if in her language she said it was a shirt, trousers or a concrete mixer, that's all irrelevant, she saw Oswald's jacket and identified it as belonging to Lee. Case Closed!

That doesn't make it true.  Marina said a lot of things.  On what basis did she make that determination?  Case open.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #453 on: February 09, 2018, 05:54:42 PM »
Who's "he"?

Lee Oswald, the man who witnesses identified as wearing a jacket.

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« Reply #454 on: February 09, 2018, 05:55:51 PM »
Why was he living under an assumed name...

Because he wanted to kill the president of course.  There could be no other reason.   ::)

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #455 on: February 09, 2018, 06:01:55 PM »
So they weren't so professional, ok I agree. Now what? Does that mean we throw the baby out with the bath water?

Yes.  There's no baby in that filthy bathwater.