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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #296 on: February 01, 2018, 11:59:45 PM »
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In order to do so she had to have her back turned to where Oswald was walking from his room to the front door!




Sorry you don't get to write the rules, the eyewitnesses who testified to seeing Oswald wearing a zipper jacket 100% corroborate Earlene Roberts.



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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #297 on: February 02, 2018, 12:02:43 AM »

Personally I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise and in this case we know that Oswald put on a zipper jacket because a plethora of eyewitnesses testified that Oswald was wearing a zipper jacket.
But with the innocent beep beep it may very well have happened, do you have any evidence to the contrary?

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Personally I give everyone the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise

So now you are a comedian too?

in this case we know that Oswald put on a zipper jacket because a plethora of eyewitnesses testified that Oswald was wearing a zipper jacket.

A logical fallacy called circular reasoning.

The opposite of this is that those people who believed they saw Oswald wearing a jacket must have been mistaken if Oswald never left the roominghouse wearing a jacket.

Or is that too complicated for you?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #298 on: February 02, 2018, 12:08:14 AM »

Sorry you don't get to write the rules, the eyewitnesses who testified to seeing Oswald wearing a zipper jacket 100% corroborate Earlene Roberts.

JohnM

Does this mean that you are not familiar with the lay out of the living room at the rooming house?

Or are you ignorantly claiming that when you are concentrating on getting a TV to work you can do so without having your back turned to the other side of the room?

And no... the other eyewitnesses do not corroborate Roberts at all...

You will probably not get this, but if Roberts was wrong (and I believe she was, as the gray jacket was in Irving) and Oswald left the roominghouse without a jacket your precious eyewitnesses must, by implication, be wrong.

Why don't you provide the proof I asked for instead of ignoring the request?
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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #299 on: February 02, 2018, 01:01:51 AM »
You sound like a broken record, playing the same old boring song over and over again.

Read this very slowly; Earlene Roberts was paying more attention to getting the TV to work. In order to do so she had to have her back turned to where Oswald was walking from his room to the front door!

Great... now prove that;

1. Oswald did in fact leave the roominghouse wearing a jacket and Roberts wasn't wrong (like for instance Baker and Whaley were).

2. the white jacket found in the car park is the same as the gray jacket CE 162

3. the gray jacket CE 162 did indeed belong to Oswald

4. the  Texas Theater was ever searched for a jacket


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Great... now prove that;

4. the  Texas Theater was ever searched for a jacket

No need.

Oswald was not wearing a jacket when seen by Brewer before he (Oswald) ever entered the theater.

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« Reply #300 on: February 02, 2018, 01:08:22 AM »
Mrs. ROBERTS: He wasn't running, but he was walking pretty fast---he was all but running.
Mr. BALL: Then, what happened after that?
Mrs. ROBERTS: He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.


Mr. BALL: It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS: Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it, he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL: He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS: Yes.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #301 on: February 02, 2018, 01:47:11 AM »
Amazing what people with bad eye sight can see in a few seconds when they are concentrating on getting the TV to work and thus have their back turned to the living room area.

Whaley said the guy that was in his taxi was wearing two jackets....

Roberts said Oswald was not wearing a jacket when he entered the roominghouse....

Oh those magical technicolor jackets......

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« Reply #302 on: February 02, 2018, 12:59:17 PM »
Roberts mentioned the fact that Oswald was wearing a jacket as he went out the door to a radio reporter on the day of the assassination.

Despite the fact that she was bombarded by law enforcement personnel and media during the weekend of the assassination, Roberts never mentioned the police car horn honking incident until a week later, after the accused assassin was himself gunned down, which sparked whispers of a possible plot.

It is interesting how you create a narrative to rationalize her reliability.  God forbid a doubter use this tactic.  Always good for a laugh, Bill.
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Offline Larry Baldwin

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« Reply #303 on: February 02, 2018, 01:00:03 PM »


Oswald's rooming house was a few doors down from a 5 way intersection and cars would be constantly queueing up and occasionally beeping, so there's every chance that a car innocently beeped and under the circumstances Earlene just guessed that they were her old Cop mates.
So effectively Earlene to the best of her knowledge never lied.





JohnM

It is interesting how you create a narrative to rationalize her reliability.  God forbid a doubter use this tactic.  Always good for a laugh, John.
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