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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #200 on: January 23, 2018, 06:31:26 PM »
"Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind* and paying more attention to the TV")
Good thing she was only half blind, huh...still had the other half to watch Oswald zip up his jacket

*She was blind in one eye, so I suppose that makes her 'half blind' percentage-wise LOL

It must be hard for you having to rely fully on a half blind woman who was paying more attention to the TV and who was known for making up stuff...

Can you imagine how the defense would have a field day destroying this witness (and a few others) on the stand, had it come to a trial?
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Online Gary Craig

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #201 on: January 23, 2018, 07:16:31 PM »
Lee Oswald's housekeeper
Lee Oswald's housekeeper (Earlene Roberts, right) and landlady (Gladys Johnson, left) photographed at Oswald's rooming house on the evening of the JFK assassination Courtesy Fort Worth Star-Telegram Collection, Special Collections Division, University of Texas at Arlington Libraries


Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #202 on: January 23, 2018, 09:26:08 PM »
So you didn't understand cross contamination.

If the transfer of fibers happened while the DPD was handling the evidence they are irrelevant to the case.

What ever case you're trying to make.

I absolutely understand cross contamination.

Finally, you decided to make a point, regarding such a thing.

Show your evidence that the jacket was sitting beside the arrest shirt on a table top or that the two were placed in a box together or anything like that.  Go on.  I'll wait.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #203 on: January 23, 2018, 09:28:04 PM »
There is no solid chain of custody for the white jacket found at the carpark. The initials on the jacket were place there at the police station (just like it happened with the revolver) and (if Westbrook's testimony is to be believed) clearly do not correspond with the officers who actually found that jacket and took it to the station.

Except for Earlene Roberts saying so (and she was half blind and paying more attention to the TV) there is no evidence that Oswald left the rooming house wearing a jacket at all and even Roberts rejected CE 162 because the jacket she claimed to have seen was darker.

That same afternoon, DPD officers took all Oswald's belongings from the rooming house and took them to the station. If the gray jacket (CE 162) was even in Oak Cliff (and not in Irving) this is how the gray jacket could have gotten to the police station.

The same goes for the search without a warrant at Ruth Paine's house. If the gray jacket was actually there, DPD officers could have brought in to the station from there.

"If"

"Could have"


You can call her half blind all you want, but the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket.

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #204 on: January 23, 2018, 09:31:12 PM »
Or, maybe you simply don't know the meaning of very basic words, like "match".  Are those fibers exclusive to one particular shirt?  Yes or no?

Anything to railroad your suspect with phony rhetoric.  Right?

You're being dumb.

The fibers were much more than "similar".  They, in fact, were a match.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #205 on: January 23, 2018, 09:37:43 PM »
Ah, because it was found in the TSBD 10 days later. Now, please answer my question.

For the record, the blue jacket (Ce-163) was found in the Depository on December 16th, which is much more than just ten days later.

This jacket being found inside the Depository does not prove that Oswald left the building without a jacket, however.  You haven't really proven anything.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #206 on: January 23, 2018, 09:45:16 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken

Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #207 on: January 23, 2018, 10:17:29 PM »
You're being dumb.

The fibers were much more than "similar".  They, in fact, were a match.

As fun as it always is to play word games with you, why are you avoiding the question?

Are those fibers exclusive to one particular shirt?  A simple yes or no will suffice.

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« Reply #208 on: January 23, 2018, 10:21:45 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken



Besides, so what if Oswald did leave the house zipping up A jacket?

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #209 on: January 23, 2018, 10:29:45 PM »
Bill Brown double standard alert;

"the bottom line is that Earlene Roberts stated over and over that Oswald left the house zipping up a jacket."

Ergo; Earlene Roberts is to be believed.

Frazier said from day 1 until today over and over again that the bag found at the TSBD was not the bag he saw Oswald carry

Ergo: Frazier was mistaken

So, if Frazier was correct about the size of the package, so what?  Oswald's rifle was still found inside the building.  How he got the rifle in there means nothing.

 

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