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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #160 on: January 22, 2018, 11:25:50 PM »
This is your so called American Justice, I can murder someone in broad daylight in front of eyewitnesses and then get seen running away by almost a dozen people, most of which see me with the same type of gun that killed the man, drop shells that match my revolver, whack the Police Officer that tries to search me, then I try and kill him too and all I need is Iacoletti Inc. to misrepresent the eyewitnesses and I'm magically innocent. Holy WOW Batman!

Whereas you prefer a system of justice that railroads a guy with bogus lineups, shells with magic disappearing initials, and a gun that a cop pulls out of his pocket 2 hours later.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #161 on: January 22, 2018, 11:31:37 PM »
And by "matched" you mean similar.  So what?






The prohibitive probability is that those fibers came from Oswald's shirt.
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Another important consideration is coincidence. When fibers that match the clothing fibers of the suspect are found on the clothing of a victim, two conclusions may be drawn: The fibers originated from the suspect, or the fibers originated from another fabric source that not only was composed of fibers of the exact type and color, but was also in a position to contribute those fibers through primary or secondary contact. The likelihood of encountering identical fibers from the environment of a homicide victim (i.e., from his or her residence or friends) is extremely remote.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/july2000/deedric3.htm



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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #162 on: January 22, 2018, 11:41:42 PM »
The prohibitive probability is that those fibers came from Oswald's shirt.
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As I said, that's just Bugliosi-speak for "similar".  He pulled this "probability" out of his azz.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #163 on: January 22, 2018, 11:42:35 PM »
Whereas you prefer a system of justice that railroads a guy with bogus lineups, shells with magic disappearing initials, and a gun that a cop pulls out of his pocket 2 hours later.




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Whereas you prefer a system of justice that railroads a guy with bogus lineups

This argument goes nowhere, the crime wasn't committed in some dark alley where a single identification may cause doubt, Oswald killed Tippit in broad daylight and was positively identified by multiple people.

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shells with magic disappearing initials

So they had the shells in custody but forgot to initial them, silly conspirators.
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and a gun that a cop pulls out of his pocket 2 hours later.

I really don't get why you find this to be such a problem, he kept it on his person for safe keeping.
What's the difference if he kept Oswald's revolver for 10 seconds, 10 minutes or 10 hours?



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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #164 on: January 22, 2018, 11:44:06 PM »
I'm surprised our resident nitwits haven't suggested that Oswald's jacket wasn't found in the theatre because there is no evidence that anyone searched for it.

A jacket doesn't prove who shot a cop, just like a paper bag doesn't prove who shot the president.  Your "mountain" is irrelevancies like this.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #165 on: January 22, 2018, 11:45:33 PM »
What are you talking about?  Ted Callaway, just for quick reference, positively identified the jacket (CE-162) as being the one that Oswald had on as he ran down Patton.

No he didn't.  He said it was the same type jacket and that he thought it had more tan to it.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #166 on: January 22, 2018, 11:47:57 PM »
As I said, that's just Bugliosi-speak for "similar".  He pulled this "probability" out of his azz.




Hahaha, I reinforced Bugliosi's professional opinion with literature directly from the FBI's website and you erase it which so typical of a CT, when evidence is produced that doesn't comply with your mindset it gets magically erased. The intellectual dishonesty on display is absolutely unbelievable.

Another important consideration is coincidence. When fibers that match the clothing fibers of the suspect are found on the clothing of a victim, two conclusions may be drawn: The fibers originated from the suspect, or the fibers originated from another fabric source that not only was composed of fibers of the exact type and color, but was also in a position to contribute those fibers through primary or secondary contact. The likelihood of encountering identical fibers from the environment of a homicide victim (i.e., from his or her residence or friends) is extremely remote.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/about-us/lab/forensic-science-communications/fsc/july2000/deedric3.htm



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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #167 on: January 22, 2018, 11:49:09 PM »
This is why I usually don't respond to your insanity, you simply don't know the evidence and now that I've proven that the vast majority of the Tippit eyewitnesses describe a light coloured jacket,

What "Tippit eyewitnesses"?

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« Reply #168 on: January 22, 2018, 11:51:22 PM »
You keep avoiding the most important piece of evidence, Markham who positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald described the same style of jacket but her description of the shade was logically influenced by vastly different lighting conditions and different contrasting backgrounds.

Is this supposed to prove that Markham saw the same jacket?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #169 on: January 22, 2018, 11:54:47 PM »
How do you know that he left the TSBD with no jacket?   

Isn't that your narrative?

 

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