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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2018, 12:52:06 AM »
The jacket was a size medium.  Oswald was a size small.  God forbid (with apologies to John Iacoletti) a small man should ever wear a medium sized jacket.

Is this supposed to somehow prove that CE162 was Oswald's jacket?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2018, 12:53:09 AM »
But John, the jacket was a Medium, not a Small.  LOL

But Bill, none of these people witnessed a crime.  LOL.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2018, 12:53:53 AM »
Acquilla Clemons did.  So did Frank Wright.




2, is that it?

Mr. BELIN - What did you see then?
Mr. BENAVIDES - I then pulled on up and I seen this officer standing by the door. The door was open to the car, and I was pretty close to him, and I seen Oswald, or the man that shot him, standing on the other side of the car.


Mr. BELIN. Did you see anything else as you heard her screaming?
Mrs. V DAVIS. Well, we saw Oswald. We didn't know it was Oswald at the time. We saw that boy cut across the lawn emptying the shells out of the gun.

Mr. BALL. Did you recognize anyone in that room?
Mrs. B DAVIS. Yes, sir. I recognized number 2.

Mr. CALLAWAY. No. And he said, "We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer. We think he is the same one that shot the President. But if we can wrap him up tight on killing this officer, we have got him." So they brought four men in.
I stepped to the back of the room, so I could kind of see him from the same distance which I had seen him before. And when he came out, I knew him.
Mr. BALL. You mean he looked like the same man?
Mr. CALLAWAY. Yes.

Mr. BALL. Then what did you do?
Mr. GUINYARD. I was looking--trying to see and after I heard the third shot, then Oswald came through on Patton running---came right through the yard in front of the big white house---there's a big two-story white house---there's two of them there and he come through the one right on the corner of Patton.

Mr. LIEBELER. Let me show you some pictures that we have here. I show you a picture that has been marked Garner Exhibit No. 1 and ask you if that is the man that you saw going down the street on the 22d of November as you have already told us.
Mr.REYNOLDS. Yes.


Mr. BELIN. Four? Did any one of the people look anything like strike that. Did you identify anyone in the lineup?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I identified the one we are talking about, Oswald. I identified him.


RUSSELL positively identified a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans Police Department # 112723, taken August 9, 1963, as being identical with the individual he had observed at the scene of the shooting of Dallas Police Officer J.D. TIPPIT on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, at Dallas, Texas.
 

Mr. BALL. What about number two, what did you mean when you said number two?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman.




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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2018, 12:54:16 AM »
And besides all that, the Jacket was initialed and is official evidence.

They couldn't even figure out who found it.

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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2018, 12:56:07 AM »
Is this supposed to somehow prove that CE162 was Oswald's jacket?




Mr. RANKIN. 162?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is Lee's--an old shirt.
Mr. RANKIN. Sort of a jacket?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.




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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2018, 12:56:37 AM »
They couldn't even figure out who found it.



So what?



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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2018, 12:56:59 AM »
So she didn't understand 1  clearly ambiguous question, WOW, is that all you got?

"Clearly ambiguous".  LOL.  "Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?"

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And as for the identification it wasn't the exact same Oswald, this future Oswald was bruised, cut and had a huge welt over his left eye, so a little trepidation is not only accepted but is welcome with open arms because her slight hesitation can only further reinforce her positive identification.

Let me get this straight.  He didn't look the same, therefore he must have been the same?

"Slight hesitation"?  She said "no" 6 times!

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« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2018, 12:58:10 AM »
So obviously Oswald's Jacket itself was creating a squared off edge. Just like in the following photo.

Why is your opinion always the "obvious" one?  And how do you know the guy in your little photo has a tapered haircut?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2018, 12:59:28 AM »
Exactly, you do realize that Iacoletti argued for weeks, at which point someone was known and unknown and by whom, and you expect Markham to act how you want and if not you throw her under a bus for what is perfectly explainable, you Oswald fanatics are beyond reason.

"Perfectly explainable" with lame LN excuses.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2018, 01:06:07 AM »
"Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman"

Nice cherry-pick.  Keep in mind, this is the same "utter screwball" who claimed

- Tippit tried to talk to her and knew she was there, even though he was killed instantly.
- She was there all by herself screaming for help for 5-10 minutes but nobody responded.
- She tried to save Tippit's life.
- She tried to use Tippit's police radio to call for help.
- That the man talked to Tippit through the passenger side window, but it was rolled up.
- That Benavides was a policeman.

Ball had to not only lead her into saying that she recognized someone in the lineup, but he even had to explain to her where she was standing when the event occurred.  Ball also had to lead her into identifying that the stain in the street on a photo was the same place she saw a pool of blood.

But let's ignore all that and just go with "Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman".

 

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