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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #690 on: June 02, 2018, 05:44:16 PM »
Cagey, but it won't work. I am not disputing *your* claim that Griffin was 279. What I am asking you to do is explain why an officer assigned to a "No-Parking Detail" presumably in the DP area would be in Oak Cliff.

His 7:00 AM No Parking Detail was likely over. As for why he was in Oak Cliff at 1:25 PM, it was because he heard the following over the Channel Two Police radio:

"General Broadcast - All squads, we have a report that an officer has been involved in a shooting in the 400 E. 10th. 1:18 p.m."


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Then I am asking that you show that 279-Griffin did indeed find the white jacket.

I've never claimed that Griffin found the jacket, so why would I have to show that he actually did?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #691 on: June 02, 2018, 05:45:41 PM »
When caught in a falsehood LNers revert to games. What is this?

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279 (unknown)   We believe we?ve got that suspect on shooting this officer out here. Got his white jacket. Believe he dumped it on this parking lot behind this service station at 400 block East Jefferson across from Dudley-Hughes and he had a white jacket on. We believe this is it.

Dispatcher   10-4, you do have the suspect, is that correct.

279 (unknown)   No, just the jacket laying on the ground.

http://historymatters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/html/WH_Vol23_0447b.htm

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It's Officer J.T. Griffin. Why do you ask?

To paraphrase what he said: "WE (the DPD) have the suspect's jacket over here in Oak Cliff. It is laying on the ground". As for who actually found the jacket (saw it first) , he doesn't say.

The late Larry R. Harris, who co-authored Cover UP with Gary Shaw, claimed in 1985 that it was Motorcycle Officer John R. Mackey who found the jacket.

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« Reply #692 on: June 02, 2018, 09:56:28 PM »
Johnny Brewer, the only person watching Oswald, said that Oswald did not buy a ticket.

Do you really want to make your stand here?  Really?

Brewer didn't see the person he was watching from behind way down the street even enter the theater.

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« Reply #693 on: June 02, 2018, 09:58:04 PM »
"About 1:30 pm I saw a man standing in the lobby of the shoe store. This man was wearing a brown sport shirt. He also acted as if he was scared." - Johnny Brewer

Mr. BELIN - So you say he was about 5'9"?
Mr. BREWER - About 5'9".
Mr. BELIN - And about 150?
Mr. BREWER - And had brown hair. He had a brown sports shirt on. His shirt tail was out.
Mr. BELIN - Any jacket?
Mr. BREWER - No.

So what?  Marrion Baker said he was wearing a light brown jacket and on the 3rd or 4th floor.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #694 on: June 02, 2018, 10:00:12 PM »
Oswald was seen zipping up his jacket by housekeeper Earlene Roberts as he left the rooming house.  Oswald was wearing a jacket when he gunned down J.D. Tippit. 

"Oswald".  LOL.

Mr. BALL. Does it look like, anything like, the jacket the man had on?
Mrs. MARKHAM. It is short, open down the front. but that jacket it is a darker jacket than that, I know it was.
Mr. BALL. You don't think it was as light a jacket as that?
Mrs. MARKHAM. No, it was darker than that, I know it was.....

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« Reply #695 on: June 02, 2018, 10:02:45 PM »
You left out the part where all of the witnesses saw Oswald with a gun in his hands.  Honest mistake on your part to leave that out, right?

...in biased and unfair lineups or from a single photo months later.

But is this supposed to prove who shot Tippit?

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #696 on: June 02, 2018, 10:07:16 PM »
This is wrong, pure and simple.

Burroughs never said anything of the sort on November 22, 1963.

Burroughs made that claim for The Men Who Killed Kennedy (1988).

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Warren Commission testimony, April 8, 1964:

Mr. BALL. Did you see that man come in the theatre?
Mr. BURROUGHS. No, sir; I didn't.

Highly dishonest.  Burroughs never claimed even in 1988 to have seen Oswald come in the theater.  There's no contradiction here.

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #697 on: June 02, 2018, 11:31:09 PM »
Brewer didn't see the person he was watching from behind way down the street even enter the theater.

That's right, from his vantage Brewer couldn't see the person enter the theater.

But he could see the person he identified as none other than Saint Oz stop in front of the theater and disappear from his view.

At which point the cops were notified that their suspect was probably in the theater and lo and behold, there's Saint Oz.

What an amazing coincidence !

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #698 on: June 03, 2018, 12:32:40 AM »
That's right, from his vantage Brewer couldn't see the person enter the theater.

But he could see the person he identified as none other than Saint Oz stop in front of the theater and disappear from his view.

If that's not evidence of murder then I don't know what is.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #699 on: June 03, 2018, 02:56:27 AM »
Good, then show Griffin acknowledging this transmission and stating that he was heading there.

What for?

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Then explain why the DPD transcript says 279 found the jacket. You are running around in circles.

The DPD transcript doesn't say 279 found the jacket.

 

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