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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #680 on: May 31, 2018, 05:36:08 PM »
A statement from Wes Frazier's sister.....

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Mr. BALL. How was Lee dressed that morning?
Mrs. RANDLE. He had on a white T-shirt, I just saw him from the waist up, I didn't pay any attention to his pants or anything, when he was going with the package. I was more interested in that. But he had on a white T-shirt and I remember some sort of brown or tan shirt and he had a gray jacket, I believe.
Mr. BALL. A gray jacket. I will show you some clothing here. First, I will show you a gray jacket. Does this look anything like the jacket he had on?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. That morning?
Mrs. RANDLE. Similar to that. I didn't pay an awful lot of attention to it.
Mr. BALL. Was it similar in color?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; I think so. It had big sleeves.
Mr. BALL. Take a look at these sleeves. Was it similar in color?
Mrs. RANDLE. I believe so.
Mr. BALL. What is the Commission Exhibit on this jacket?
Mrs. RANDLE. It was gray, I am not sure of the shade.

Why would Oswald need to go to his rooming house to get and put on a jacket that he had already worn to work that morning?........... ;) 

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #681 on: May 31, 2018, 05:47:12 PM »
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A statement from Wes Frazier's sister.....

Why would Oswald need to go to his rooming house to get and put on a jacket that he had already worn to work that morning?........... ;) 


He wouldn't and he didn't.

Mr. BALL. Here is another jacket which is a gray jacket, does this look anything like the jacket he had on?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir; I remember its being gray.
Mr. BALL. Well, this one is gray but of these two the jacket I last showed you is Commission Exhibit No. 162, and this blue gray is 163, now if you had to choose between these two?
Mrs. RANDLE. I would choose the dark one.
Mr. BALL. You would choose the dark one?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Which is 163, as being more similar to the jacket he had?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; that I remember. But I, you know, didn't pay an awful lot of attention to his jacket. I remember his T-shirt and the shirt more so than I do the jacket.
Mr. BALL. The witness just stated that 163 which is the gray-blue is similar to the jacket he had on. 162, the light gray jacket was not.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes.

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« Reply #682 on: May 31, 2018, 06:00:33 PM »
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So why list him as "Unknown"?

Because whoever listed him as Unknown didn't know who he was. What other reason could there be?

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And what could he tell the Commission about the white jacket?

About the same as his fellow motorcycle officer R.W. Walker. Not much. They saw it from a distance.

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« Reply #683 on: May 31, 2018, 06:43:15 PM »
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Nope. Oswald had the brown shirt with him at all times; from the time that he assassinated Kennedy until the time of his arrest in the Texas Theatre.

"The time that he assassinated Kennedy" -- nothing like assuming what you're trying to prove.

But where was the brown shirt when he passed by Jeraldean Reid?


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« Reply #684 on: May 31, 2018, 06:44:00 PM »
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It's not irrelevant but it's not of great significance either.  It's merely just small piece of evidence that further shows that Oswald passed through that parking lot as he fled from the murder scene.

How would a jacket in a parking lot show that anyone "fled from a murder scene"?

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« Reply #685 on: May 31, 2018, 06:45:09 PM »
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It does more than just show Oswald passed through the parking lot.

It demonstrates that Saint Oswald was desperately trying to alter his appearance.

LOL.  It demonstrates that you have an overactive imagination.

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« Reply #686 on: May 31, 2018, 06:48:26 PM »
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He wouldn't and he didn't.

Mr. BALL. Here is another jacket which is a gray jacket, does this look anything like the jacket he had on?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir; I remember its being gray.
Mr. BALL. Well, this one is gray but of these two the jacket I last showed you is Commission Exhibit No. 162, and this blue gray is 163, now if you had to choose between these two?
Mrs. RANDLE. I would choose the dark one.
Mr. BALL. You would choose the dark one?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. Which is 163, as being more similar to the jacket he had?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir; that I remember. But I, you know, didn't pay an awful lot of attention to his jacket. I remember his T-shirt and the shirt more so than I do the jacket.
Mr. BALL. The witness just stated that 163 which is the gray-blue is similar to the jacket he had on. 162, the light gray jacket was not.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes.


Who in the world would refer to this as being "gray"?


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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #687 on: May 31, 2018, 07:11:46 PM »
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He wouldn't and he didn't.

Didn't what? Grab a jacket?

 
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Mr. BALL. Here is another jacket which is a gray jacket, does this look anything like the jacket he had on?
Mrs. RANDLE. No, sir; I remember its being gray.
Now does that make any sense?

 
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Mrs. RANDLE. .... But I, you know, didn't pay an awful lot of attention to his jacket. I remember his T-shirt and the shirt more so than I do the jacket.
Why would Randle remember the T shirt the long sleeve brown shirt but not remember some like this [below]  covering them up...



If this [below] was shown earlier in the thread...apologies




On the left is a jacket that was supposedly 'found' in a parking lot. Was described as a WHITE Ike style jacket.
On the right is CE 162... the gray jacket ..What a transformation!

 

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« Reply #688 on: May 31, 2018, 07:14:09 PM »
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But where was the brown shirt when he passed by Jeraldean Reid?

It was hanging off of the back of his pants, tucked into his belt.

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« Reply #689 on: May 31, 2018, 07:15:18 PM »
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How would a jacket in a parking lot show that anyone "fled from a murder scene"?

Oswald was seen by numerous witnesses fleeing the scene of the shooting. Mary Brock saw him in the parking lot behind the Texaco service station wearing a jacket. His jacket being found in that parking lot just confirms her statement.

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« Reply #689 on: May 31, 2018, 07:15:18 PM »