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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2018, 01:07:36 AM »
Iacoletti, you've been told, the prohibitive probability is that those fibers came from the shirt Oswald was wearing.

"Prohibitive probability" is Bugliosi-speak for "similar".

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2018, 01:09:36 AM »
Many witnesses positively identified Oswald in the vicinity of Tenth and Patton, running with a gun in his hands and wearing a jacket.

In unfair and invalid lineups and photo showups.

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Each of us can, on our own, choose to determine how much credibility to give these witnesses.  Some can accept the obvious, that the witnesses near Tenth and Patton saw the same man that Brewer saw.  Others can jump through any hoop that they have to in order to place guilt on anyone other than the actual cop-killer.

Something doesn't just become "obvious" because it's your unsubstantiated opinion.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2018, 01:09:56 AM »
"Clearly ambiguous".  LOL.  "Did you recognize anyone in the lineup?"



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Why is this a problem, she clearly was under the impression if she knew any of the men before 1:15 on the 22nd and she said no, Ball should have seen the problem immediately and rephrased the question.
Besides Markham was in front of some of the most powerful men in the country and they were investigating the death of the President of her country Markham being a little nervous is perfectly understandable and in no way affects her positive identification on the same day.



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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2018, 01:10:30 AM »
Mr. RANKIN. 162?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is Lee's--an old shirt.
Mr. RANKIN. Sort of a jacket?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.


Is this supposed to somehow prove that CE162 was Oswald's jacket?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2018, 01:16:28 AM »
Why is your opinion always the "obvious" one? 





Because Benavides positively identified Oswald.

Mr. BELIN - You used the name Oswald. How did you know this man was Oswald?
Mr. BENAVIDES - From the pictures I had seen. It looked like a guy, resembled the guy. That was the reason I figured it was Oswald.




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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2018, 01:17:12 AM »
Is this supposed to somehow prove that CE162 was Oswald's jacket?



DUH!



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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2018, 01:27:21 AM »
Can you prove that those fibers came from that shirt to the exclusion of any other shirt?

What are you talking about?

Any other shirt?  Do you somehow believe just ANY other shirt has dark blue, gray-black and orange-yellow cotton fibers?

The fibers from the jacket sleeve did indeed match microscopic fibers from Oswald's arrest shirt.

Of course, the fibers from the jacket sleeve could have come from other shirts which consisted of dark blue, gray-black and orange-yellow cotton fibers.

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2018, 01:33:08 AM »
Nice cherry-pick.  Keep in mind, this is the same "utter screwball" who claimed

- Tippit tried to talk to her and knew she was there, even though he was killed instantly.
- She was there all by herself screaming for help for 5-10 minutes but nobody responded.
- She tried to save Tippit's life.
- She tried to use Tippit's police radio to call for help.
- That the man talked to Tippit through the passenger side window, but it was rolled up.
- That Benavides was a policeman.




Before I start, Markham was raising a family and held a steady job, some screwball?

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- Tippit tried to talk to her and knew she was there, even though he was killed instantly.

The officer moved slightly and groaned but never said anything that he could understand.
Frank Cimino


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- She was there all by herself screaming for help for 5-10 minutes but nobody responded.

From when it happened till an ambulance response was 5-10 minutes.

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- She tried to save Tippit's life.

She was holding Tippit's head up and talked to him to keep him awake but Tippit's agonal gasps were just involuntary.

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- She tried to use Tippit's police radio to call for help.

She may have at some point.

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- That the man talked to Tippit through the passenger side window, but it was rolled up.

The right front passenger door air vent window was open.



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- That Benavides was a policeman.

Even if true how that make someone a screwball?


Talk about desperate, an easily refuted and pathetic list.



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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2018, 01:56:39 AM »
Yet, none of them say that there were two assailants.

Acquilla Clemons did.  So did Frank Wright.

I was referring to real witnesses, people who actually saw something.

How did real witnesses like Benavides, Markham and Scoggins manage to not notice this second assailant?

In October of 1964, Wright told George and Patricia Nash that he saw the assailant get into his car and drive away, heading west on Tenth Street.  Acquilla Clemmons told Mark Lane that the two men both left on foot.  Which one of them do you want to rely on?

This doesn't even take into account the fact that Wright changed his story later.  He told reporter Earl Golz that the assailant didn't get into his car after all, saying that the man ran alongside the car yelling at the driver as the driver sped off (supposedly straight towards Clemmons, by the way).

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Jacket
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2018, 01:57:54 AM »
Is this supposed to somehow prove that CE162 was Oswald's jacket?

Not at all.  it was a direct reply to Gary Craig's dumb ass post that the jacket was not Oswald's since it was a size Medium.  Did I really have to explain this to you?

 

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