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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #430 on: April 19, 2020, 03:53:36 AM »
Roger Craig claimed that he saw that "Stamped right there on the barrel "7.65 Mauser,  when Capt Fritz was examining the carcano. Craig said that he wasn't more than six or eight inches from the rifle, and he saw stamped right there on the barrel ---"7.65 Mauser".

Craig was not referring to when Alyea was filming Fritz examining the carcano. Why do you keep claiming he was?

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #431 on: April 19, 2020, 03:55:28 AM »
             If Lt Day had his camera and this camera was a press camera [a Speed Graphic like seen at 2:50 in the clip?] He would have to set it down to pick up the rifle. The guy with the press camera had a hat and coat.
      Walt points out that it is Lt Carl Day at 2:55...handling the rifle. Did he remove his hat and coat?
      Also it is possible [and it looks like] that scene was re-created for the movie camera and for the sake of a television report.
      Just see the way the guys are gathered around. Apparently, the mentioned live round had already been ejected. The man with              the rifle practically stuck it in his own face.
      Seymour Weitzman apparently fell asleep when Fritz did that ejecting because he didn't seem to see Fritz remove anything from the rifle.
       At 3:40...I think that was for show also just because I think it was.
       Sir... dust the rifle again so we can get it on film.
       The entire 6th floor was filled with dust and no fingerprints were produced....except--- 
       The mention of the chicken bone and soda bottle [5:00] being found at the window was broadcast around the world.
       To this very day...Oswald is believed to have been eating this lunch while waiting for the motorcade.
       They dusted the bottle and the chicken bone? And...I never heard?
        According to one account of the many accounts...because Oswald's prints weren't found on them--the soda bottle and    chicken bone were thrown away. The locations of this evidence were various.....
        https://books.google.com/books?id=9XEhAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT90&lpg=PT90&dq=chicken+bone+and+soda+bottle+6th+floor+jfk&source=bl&ots=yJpjrRu-fI&sig=ACfU3U1ppZkNTMac9p1XqSs6mJS1_lARTQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0-Pebt_PoAhVCXawKHa6MC1YQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=

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Online Gerry Down

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #432 on: April 19, 2020, 05:07:58 PM »
Craig was not referring to when Alyea was filming Fritz examining the carcano. Why do you keep claiming he was?

Craig didn't know about the Alyea footage when he began making his claims about a mauser. If he had known that footage existed, he would not have told lies!

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #433 on: April 19, 2020, 05:22:44 PM »
Roger Craig claimed that he saw that "Stamped right there on the barrel "7.65 Mauser,  when Capt Fritz was examining the carcano. Craig said that he wasn't more than six or eight inches from the rifle, and he saw stamped right there on the barrel ---"7.65 Mauser".

Cite that

Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #434 on: April 19, 2020, 05:58:01 PM »
Craig didn't know about the Alyea footage when he began making his claims about a mauser. If he had known that footage existed, he would not have told lies!

I believe that you're right.    But the film has Roger Craig superimposed on it and Roger is saying that he saw "stamped right there on the barrel was the inscription "&.65 Mauser"

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #435 on: April 19, 2020, 07:12:30 PM »
Roger is saying that he saw "stamped right there on the barrel was the inscription "&.65 Mauser"

He didn't say that until many years later. Never said it at all at the WC.

Offline Izraul Hidashi

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Re: Shells, rifle, SN... Who?
« Reply #436 on: April 19, 2020, 11:26:16 PM »
He didn't say that until many years later. Never said it at all at the WC.

Didn't 2 deputy sheriffs say the same thing? One being deputy sheriff Seymour Weitzman, who wrote in his report the next day that he found a 7.65 Mauser?  Three men with firearms experience all claimed the same thing. What are the odds? Clearly evidence was being planted all around. So isn't plausible that there could have really been a Mauser?

How many other rifles were seen at the TBD that day?

Here's a Remington Model 8 .. why was it there? https://photos.app.goo.gl/HBy3YVL2NffW9GNt8

What need did the police have for bringing rifles into the TBD? There were plenty of cops with handguns, right?

Is this another rifle in the TBD between boxes? https://photos.app.goo.gl/mVjHy5SG8XHWkXYU7

This guy has a rifle (or maybe a shotgun) https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uz1FoKrL8DNoWifQ6

And there's evidence of 2 Carcano's  https://photos.app.goo.gl/bNNQv5MiFtn9sK7t7

So how far fetched is it that there could have been a Mauser? 3 different cops said they saw a Mauser. 2 changed their story. The 1 who didn't was fired. Seriously... How much more evidence do people need in order to see the fuckery involved?
« Last Edit: April 19, 2020, 11:37:23 PM by Izraul Hidashi »

 

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