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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #248 on: April 23, 2020, 06:37:30 PM »
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If he did mistake the Carcano for a Mauser, or at least wanted people to think he did, the one part of the set up he wouldn't have shouldn't have got wrong, based on the detail in his description, was the Japanese made scope. IMO

Unfortunately we don't have a photo of the mauser so we can see what the scope on the mauser looked like ......  But we can safely assume that it wasn't very distinctive .....  It would have been stupendous if Weitzman had said that the scope on the mauser was a large and powerful scope ( Like Arnold Rowland described)

Maybe the Mauser was the rifle with the Weaver scope.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #249 on: April 23, 2020, 08:47:45 PM »
Maybe the Mauser was the rifle with the Weaver scope.

A distinct possibility....   These are the kind of ideas that may produce something solid to talk about.....  But arguing that the rifle that Weitzman and Boone discovered was a mauser  is utter nonsense.

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« Reply #250 on: April 23, 2020, 09:41:52 PM »
That's because the existing Alyea film tells you nothing about what Roger Craig saw.  Or what Weitzman saw for that matter.

the existing Alyea film tells you nothing about what Roger Craig saw.

But the Alyea film and the corroborating testimonies does tell an intelligent person what Roger Craig could NOT have seen....ie; A 7.65 mauser.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #251 on: April 23, 2020, 10:39:21 PM »
the existing Alyea film tells you nothing about what Roger Craig saw.

But the Alyea film and the corroborating testimonies does tell an intelligent person what Roger Craig could NOT have seen....ie; A 7.65 mauser.

If Weitzman saw one then Craig could have seen one as well.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #252 on: April 23, 2020, 11:30:30 PM »
the existing Alyea film tells you nothing about what Roger Craig saw.

But the Alyea film and the corroborating testimonies does tell an intelligent person what Roger Craig could NOT have seen....ie; A 7.65 mauser.

 BS: Extract your head. Film can't tell you what didn't happen. What part of that don't you get? And your thoughts re a shooter being in the TSBD? Cock a doodle do.

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« Reply #253 on: April 25, 2020, 03:28:46 PM »
Craig exhibited mental problem later on but never wavered from his original stance on the Mauser as the weapon.

Of course you're right...."Craig never wavered from his original stance on the Mauser as the weapon."    But that simply means that in his ( sick) mind that it was the truth.   But if you'll review the 15 minute period from the discovery of the CARCANO  until Lt Day picks the carcano UP FROM THE FLOOR there should be no doubt in your mind that Roger Craig was a liar.....and there was no mauser there.

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« Reply #254 on: April 26, 2020, 07:46:51 PM »
What 15 minute period is available to review?

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« Reply #255 on: April 26, 2020, 10:56:10 PM »
What 15 minute period is available to review?

The 15 minutes between 1:22  the time that Weitzman and Boone discovered the rifle LYING ON THE FLOOR and the time that Lt Day picked the rifle up OFF THE FLOOR  by the leather strap.   I simply use the time of 15 minutes .....It might have a bit more or a bit less....But what everthat period of time was, we have at least a half dozen witness who swore that nobody touched the rifle before Day came with Captain Fritz and picked up the carcano FROM THE FLOOR.