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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #608 on: May 23, 2022, 12:45:04 AM »
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Roger Craig's claim about the Mauser is refuted by Tom Alyea's film.
Alyea films the rifle in it's initial hiding place, being brought out by Day and then dusted for prints.
Craig states he sees "Mauser" stamped on the barrel after it is brought out of it's hiding place.
The rifle is a Mannlicher Carcano and not a Mauser.

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« Reply #609 on: May 23, 2022, 06:20:23 PM »
Roger Craig's claim about the Mauser is refuted by Tom Alyea's film.
Alyea films the rifle in it's initial hiding place, being brought out by Day and then dusted for prints.
Craig states he sees "Mauser" stamped on the barrel after it is brought out of it's hiding place.
The rifle is a Mannlicher Carcano and not a Mauser.

Craig didn't identify the rifle as a mauser on 11/22/63....    At that time nobody actually knew what the rifle was.... Weitzman ventured a guess that it "looked like a mauser"....and others (Craig)  accepted his guess as if it were a fact.   When deyective Day was examining the rifle he discovered that it was "Made in Italy," and it was 6.5 caliber, but it wasn't until Saturday that they learned that it was called a Mannlicher Carcano.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #610 on: May 24, 2022, 04:42:19 AM »
Can't recall the cop wh0 was with Craig but he identified it as Mauser. That person who identified it as a Mauser I believe either owned a gun store or owned a sporting goods store with rifles. Also people need look into this aspect further because three guns were supposedly found in TSBD. Oliver Stone's movie JFK Destiny Betrayed discusses this in the movie.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #611 on: May 24, 2022, 02:35:36 PM »
Craig didn't identify the rifle as a mauser on 11/22/63....    At that time nobody actually knew what the rifle was.... Weitzman ventured a guess that it "looked like a mauser"....and others (Craig)  accepted his guess as if it were a fact.   When deyective Day was examining the rifle he discovered that it was "Made in Italy," and it was 6.5 caliber, but it wasn't until Saturday that they learned that it was called a Mannlicher Carcano.

That's not true. Craig stated the rifle was a Mauser when he identified the stamp. Weitzman said it was a Mauser as well until he changed his story claiming he only "glanced" at the rifle.   

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #612 on: May 24, 2022, 04:43:51 PM »
Can't recall the cop wh0 was with Craig but he identified it as Mauser. That person who identified it as a Mauser I believe either owned a gun store or owned a sporting goods store with rifles. Also people need look into this aspect further because three guns were supposedly found in TSBD. Oliver Stone's movie JFK Destiny Betrayed discusses this in the movie.

Paul, the story that the rifle was a mauser is just silly nonsense.     Seymour Weitzman ventured a WAG that it looked like a mauser before it was removed from beneath the boxes of books, where it had been carefully hidden.   Nobody knew what kind of rifle it was until Saturday morning, when it was found to be a Mannlicher Carcano.   

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« Reply #613 on: May 25, 2022, 12:52:15 AM »
Also supposedly from Craig's daughter about her father, Dallas County Sheriff's Office "Man of the Year" for 1960.

"I'm not disputing that what he thought he saw was something different than what was reported."

and this from Dave Reitzes.....

"Now, the Rambler episode is a whole separate issue. It happened; Craig was not the only person who saw it. Ten minutes after the assassination, a man described as being in his twenties did leave Dealey Plaza in a Nash Rambler. The question is, did this individual have anything to do with the assassination? There's no evidence for it, nor is there any evidence specifically against it.

It's possible that he and the Rambler driver were just bystanders with some non-sinister reason for leaving. It's also possible he was a newsman racing off to file a story, although Craig's description of him as wearing blue trousers and a tan shirt, if accurate, may be inconsistent with this, as I would expect a reporter to be dressed more professionally, unless he had been "off duty," so to speak.

To those who think Oswald was the lone assassin, it doesn't seem important; to those who think there was a conspiracy, it's tantalizing."

It's possible that he and the Rambler driver were just bystanders with some non-sinister reason for leaving. It's also possible he was a newsman racing off to file a story, although Craig's description of him as wearing blue trousers and a tan shirt, if accurate, may be inconsistent with this, as I would expect a reporter to be dressed more professionally, unless he had been "off duty," so to speak.

To those who think Oswald was the lone assassin, it doesn't seem important; to those who think there was a conspiracy, it's tantalizing."


I'm absolutely sure there was a conspiracy ..... and not at all tantalized by the report of a young man leaving the scene in a Rambler.     Roger Craig warped the story into BS......   However,  I believe that IF? IF ? Roger Craig's description of the young man who climbed into the Rambler was accurate and the man was actually wearing blue trousers and a tan shirt...then that eliminates Lee Oswald as the man because Lee was wearing dark gray trousers and a reddish brown shirt.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #614 on: May 25, 2022, 12:30:38 PM »
Paul, the story that the rifle was a mauser is just silly nonsense.     Seymour Weitzman ventured a WAG that it looked like a mauser before it was removed from beneath the boxes of books, where it had been carefully hidden.   Nobody knew what kind of rifle it was until Saturday morning, when it was found to be a Mannlicher Carcano.

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What you're saying is silly nonsense. "Nobody knew until Saturday morning"? It doesn't take that long to ID the make of a rifle when top law enforcement experts were all on the case.     

Seymour said it was a Mauser and so did Roger Craig who witnessed the stamp on the rifle. Then Seymour changed his story when he testified.

Why would Roger Craig say he witnessed a Mauser stamp if the rifle was a Mannlicher Carcano? That's a totally different weapon.

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Offline Paul J Cummings

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« Reply #615 on: May 25, 2022, 01:00:21 PM »
It's not nonsense? From the Book "High Treason" pg 144. "Deputy Eugene Boone and and I (Craig) found the rifle which I might add was a 7.65 Mauser, so stamped on the barrel. Weitzman signed an affidavit to the this effect."

"High Treason pg 229. Affidavits sworn at the time of the assassination by Deputy Sheriff Seymour Weitzman state the gun was a German Mauser.

Weitzman- a man with extensive experience in guns, who owned gun shops, who had a graduate degree in Engineering-that the gun was a Mauser, a favored weapon of snipers.

That's pure hogwash they didn't know what type of gun it was until Saturday. So a FULL day after the assassination with FBI, Police and SS nobody could identify the gun until the next day? This gun that killed the President wasn't identified until the next day doesn't hold your claim.
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