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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #752 on: June 24, 2022, 06:37:06 AM »
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The cartridge could not help but be inserted under the extractor and then accordingly ejected by Fritz.

This statement is false!.....  I's very easy to drop a cartridge into the breech and slide the bolt forward....  HOWEVER the bolt will not latch because the cartridge is not married to the face of the bolt .....(IOW the lip of the cartridge is in FRONT of the extractor and not behind the extractor. )   And since Alyea's film shows that the bolt is not closed and LATCHED on the carcano as detective Day picks up the carcano up from the floor and holds the rifle up to Captain Fritz.......It's a sure bet that whoever placed the live round in the breech simply dropped that cartridge into the breech and shoved the bolt forward.

Fritz stated he ejected the cartridge.

Mr. Ball.
After the pictures had been taken of the rifle what happened then?
Mr. Fritz.
After the pictures had been made then I ejected a live shell, a live cartridge from the rifle.

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The rifle fired two shots and the shells were ejected and the final cartridge loaded into chamber as designed. For what reason was a live round hand loaded into the gun?


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« Reply #753 on: June 24, 2022, 06:45:16 AM »
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Jan 23, 2019 at 11:39am   QuotePost Options
Post by Paul Ernst on Jan 23, 2019 at 11:39am
JFK assassination: Cameraman followed police as they searched for sniper
He followed Dallas officers as they searched the book depository for the president's assassin.
By MICHAEL OVERALL World Staff Writer Nov 22, 2013

Tom Alyea

Holding the door open as the police rushed inside, a TV cameraman slipped in before the entrance was blocked to keep reporters out.
Tom Alyea had the scoop of a lifetime as he followed several Dallas detectives floor-to-floor through the Texas School Book Depository,just minutes after President Kennedy was shot.
"They weren't looking for evidence.
They were looking for the assassin," said Alyea, now 91 and living in Tulsa.
"For all they knew, there could've been 20 assassins in that building. They had their guns out, ready for anything."

On the sixth floor, Alyea, a photojournalist for WFAA-TV in Dallas, filmed three boxes stacked near an open window, where the sniper apparently had steadied his rifle.
Capt. Will Fritz picked up three shell casings and held them out for Alyea's camera to get a better angle.
They weren't worried about disturbing evidence.
The search continued to the roof without finding a gunman, so Alyea and the police went back to the sixth floor to collect evidence.
His most famous footage shows a detective dusting a rifle for prints just moments after it was found stashed between some boxes.
A round was still in the gun's chamber, ready to fire, with two more bullets in the ammunition clip.
"That always bothered me," Alyea said, looking back on the 50th anniversary of the assassination.
"He left a loaded rifle behind, but how did he know he wouldn't have to shoot his way out?"

Alyea, however, has little patience for conspiracy theorists who ask whether Lee Harvey Oswald really did it.
"These guys who write to me — 99 percent of their 'facts' are completely made up," he said. "They're not even asking the right questions."
In what he calls "the sixth-floor scam," Alyea described a chaotic investigation that didn't exactly go by the book but was later "cleaned up" in official reports.
Before taking crime-scene photos, for example, a detective dropped the spent shell casings back on the floor, as if they had never been picked up, Alyea said.
"Obviously his photos aren't right," he said. "He couldn't put them where they had been because he had never seen them."
Of particular interest to conspiracy buffs, Alyea watched an officer touch a paper sack with his foot, causing two chicken bones and an empty Dr Pepper bottle to roll out. Could it have been the real assassin's lunch?

Alyea has long insisted that, contrary to officials reports, the chicken bones were found on the fifth floor, not the sixth.
Either way, the sack obviously had been there for days, with the bones completely dried out, Alyea said.
"They had absolutely nothing to do with anything," he said. "I took a close up, just in case they turned out to be important, but they weren't."
More significant to him, detectives moved boxes around while searching the building, even disturbing the sniper's nest itself, Alyea said.
The boxes were re-stacked before other journalists got access to the building, but they weren't put back exactly the same way, he said.

One box originally was tilted on the windowsill, where Oswald apparently rested the rifle on it to help him aim, Alyea said.
Later photos show the box sitting upright, suggesting a slightly higher angle for the fatal shot, he said.
The police also re-stacked other boxes higher and closer together, making the sniper's nest almost completely hidden, he said.
In fact, as the boxes were originally arranged, Oswald could've been seen from much of the sixth floor, had anybody else been there, Alyea said.
None of it seems to cast doubt on the conclusion that Oswald was the lone gunman.

But Alyea was shocked by police reports — some written by officers who he said weren't even there — that failed to mention how the crime scene was treated in the early, hectic phase of the case."The lies," Alyea said. "The lies bother me. The historical record is not accurate."
To set the facts straight, Alyea has written a five-chapter manuscript, complete with never-before-seen photos from inside the Book Depository. But it remains unpublished.
Making it impossible to corroborate parts of his account, much of the footage Alyea took that day was left on the cutting room floor and apparently thrown away, its significance not appreciated at the time.
"I wish I hadn't been the only one with a camera inside the building that day," he said. "If there had been more cameras, all the facts would be known."I didn't want a scoop. This wasn't a scoop; this was history."

www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/jfk-assassination-cameraman-followed-police-as-they-searched-for-sniper/article_9679af95-d45f-502b-b094-2a09bc29c16f.html


Additional comments from Alyea:

We all looked over the barricade to see if the half open window with three boxes piled to form a shooting rest for a gunman.
One box was actually on the window sill, tilted at an angle.
The actual positioning of the barricade was never photographed by the police.
It s actual positioning is only on my movie footage, which was taken before the police started dismantling the arrangement.
I have also seen recently a police photo of the assassin's lair taken from a high angle which indicates that it was shot before the barricade box arrangement was destroyed, but it did not show the barricade itself. This has no bearing on the case other than the public has never seen the original placement. . . .

The barricade had been completely dismantled and the boxes from the West side of the barricade had been removed and placed in various locations around the site. We did not realize at the time that Studebaker had not recorded on film the original placement of the boxes in the barricade. He also had removed the shooting support boxes on the window ledge and stacked them one on top of the other on the floor inside. He took a picture of this reconstructed arrangement. This is the view researchers have of the shooting support boxes that were originally on the brick window ledge.
The corner of the outside box was positioned over the lower window channel that tilted the box at an angle.

Several officers arrived while we were waiting for Lt. Day. One of them was Roger Craig, who is responsible for giving much misinformation to the press.(???)
The average height of the barricade (Barricade #1) was four and a half feet.
So just a question .

If you base research on non factual things could you possibly present a damn thing that was factual?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=94APWcGDMyY

Thanks for the help.

He had Roger Craig pegged.

Another case of incriminating evidence but the film was destroyed leaving the story as a case of I said, he said who do you want to believe.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #754 on: June 24, 2022, 06:49:07 AM »
The cone forms a 10' circle around the sn window, and includes part of Dal-Tex

As calculated  Mr Canning,  Staff Engineer for the Space Projects Division of NASA Ames Research Center, explained trajectory analysis during the HSCA Investigation.
   
Basically a 5 to 13 foot radius centering on the 6th floor window.

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« Reply #755 on: June 24, 2022, 07:32:35 AM »
Matched to the rifle and found in the limo and at Parkland.

So no evidence then that they inflicted wounds in Kennedy.

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« Reply #756 on: June 24, 2022, 07:37:17 AM »
Who else but LHO? Funny place to store his rifle.

“His rifle”. LOL.

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Brennan's first statement to the press was he saw him fire a second time.

Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle explode? Did you see the flash of what was either the second or the third shot?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. McCLOY. Could you see that he had discharged the rifle?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.

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« Reply #757 on: June 24, 2022, 07:40:28 AM »
The only possible explanation for the wound in JBC's back is for the bullet to first pass through JFK.

 BS:

Only if you preassume where the bullet that wounded Connally came from.

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« Reply #758 on: June 24, 2022, 07:44:36 AM »
Another case of incriminating evidence but the film was destroyed leaving the story as a case of I said, he said who do you want to believe.

Nice two-step. First it’s “Kritzberg misquoted him”. Now it’s “he’s not believable”.

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #759 on: June 24, 2022, 03:29:57 PM »
Nice two-step. First it’s “Kritzberg misquoted him”. Now it’s “he’s not believable”.

Everyone but Alyea is lying or at least according to him.

What two step? First, Alyea is the one who stated Kritzberg misquoted him.

I guess there is a fist time for everything. Every piece of evidence is always dismissed for lack of proof. Now, and this is new, you accept Alyea's statements with nothing but his memory as proof. He is basically stating the DPD, FBI, and Dallas Sheriffs Office were all in on a giant conspiracy to deceive but he lacks any evidence at all. Is it because he is stating something you desperately want to believe and want to hear?

How about another view of Alyea, he did make the statements to Kritzberg and he then claims she misquoted him. He then claims DPD, Sheriffs Dept, and FBI all are lying about how they investigated the 6th floor but his evidence of this has been destroyed. The only person telling the truth, in the whole group of people investigating the assassination, was Alyea or at least in his mind. Alyea created quite a fantasy with himself at the center. I wonder if he is Rowland's real dad and maybe Craig's brother. Seems to be no shortage of these type of people in this assassination.