Roger Craig

[Mitch Todd]

Why someone would destroy the crest and place that stamp there is anyone's guess. What is left of the crest looks like the top of the 1891 Argentine Mauser crest, which makes no sense given the 1891 was chambered in the 7.65 x53 round . I don't know where that photo came from but the rifle is definitely the product of a real clown.

The Argentine national crest was ground off by the Argentine government before export. The Argentines had a law requiring the removal of national markings from arms before they could be sold. Almost any example of a model 91 you can find will have been put to the grinder.  I've never seen one that hasn't been scalped.

BTW, the Gun Control Act of 1968 requires that any firearm imported into the US has the weapon clearly and permanently marked with the caliber. The caliber stamp on the pictured example may mark it as such a "post-import" rifle. As a rule, those old military rifles didn't have any caliber markings, and didn't need them. The model 38 and 91/38  Carcanos are a rare exception to this, due to WWII breaking out at a very inconvenient time for the Italian army.

[Rick Plant]

So, Weitzman originally stated the rifle was a Mauser and so did Roger Craig.

When Weitzman testified, he changed his story claiming the rifle had a "Mauser type action".

We then hear the absurd claim from Weitzman that he only "glanced at the rifle" so he wasn't sure what kind of rifle it was when before he was certain it was a Mauser. 

President Kennedy was just murdered and the potential murder weapon was just located. Are we to believe that law enforcement officers would only go "ho-hum" and just "glance" at a weapon that possibly killed President Kennedy? That's the nonsense Weitzman was trying to claim in his testimony. Officers would do more than just "glance" at the weapon before they took it in for analysis. Especially one of that importance.

And then the claim that law enforcement officers had no clue what type of make the rifle was for an entire day is even more absurd. The best experts were dispatched to Dallas and are we supposed to believe it would take a whole day for them to determine what the make was?

When you think about it logically you can see these claims are total nonsense. This is not how law enforcement would operate.

Weitzman changed his story when it was time to talk.         

[Paul J Cummings]

It took another day to identify the gun. The President of the United States was gunned down but I guess they had other things to do in the case before identifying the gun. What's the rush? It's only the President so they must have had other priorities that day than identifying the gun. Law enforcement of the FBI, DPD and Sherriff had more important matters than identifying the gun that day.

So, Weitzman originally stated the rifle was a Mauser and so did Roger Craig.

When Weitzman testified, he changed his story claiming the rifle had a "Mauser type action".

We then hear the absurd claim from Weitzman that he only "glanced at the rifle" so he wasn't sure what kind of rifle it was when before he was certain it was a Mauser. 

President Kennedy was just murdered and the potential murder weapon was just located. Are we to believe that law enforcement officers would only go "ho-hum" and just "glance" at a weapon that possibly killed President Kennedy? That's the nonsense Weitzman was trying to claim in his testimony. Officers would do more than just "glance" at the weapon before they took it in for analysis. Especially one of that importance.

And then the claim that law enforcement officers had no clue what type of make the rifle was for an entire day is even more absurd. The best experts were dispatched to Dallas and are we supposed to believe it would take a whole day for them to determine what the make was?

When you think about it logically you can see these claims are total nonsense. This is not how law enforcement would operate.

Weitzman changed his story when it was time to talk.         

[John Mytton]

It took another day to identify the gun. The President of the United States was gunned down but I guess they had other things to do in the case before identifying the gun. What's the rush? It's only the President so they must have had other priorities that day than identifying the gun. Law enforcement of the FBI, DPD and Sherriff had more important matters than identifying the gun that day.

Paul, Oswald's Italian Carcano was filmed in the depository and shown on TV on the 22nd.





And Oswald's Italian Carcano was photographed leaving the building on the 22nd.



@3:17

And again later that day in the halls of justice.



JohnM

[Paul J Cummings]

So you have pictures. So why did it take a day to identify? WTF does your pictures have to do with authorities IDENTIFYING the rifle?

[John Mytton]

So you have pictures. So why did it take a day to identify? WTF does your pictures have to do with authorities IDENTIFYING the rifle?

Calm down and you might learn something, in addition to the IDENTIFYING photographs while in the halls of Justice, Lt Day is filmed saying the rifle was "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940" What more do you want and where does your ranting lead?

And also see the video below, which is the complete 2013 CNN documentary that Michael Giampaolo talked about earlier (entitled "The Assassination Of President Kennedy"). And included in that program (at 20:10) is, indeed, the voice of Lieutenant J.C. Day uttering these words --- "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940":
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-591.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QMBH940EMjv3zWnouwEdVQ2aGcgWMwn6/view

Thanks to DVP!

JohnM

[Paul J Cummings]

Again why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI? Just answer the question that I've posed numerous times to you. If you're construing me not being calm and ranting that's on you. From Spartacus "7.65 Mauser. Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone found the rifle following the movement of book boxes by Deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney and called Deputy Constable Seymour Weitzman to witness his discovery. Another Deputy Sheriff, Roger Craig, was thereabouts and he saw the gun and heard the conversations of the others. The officers had no doubts about their identification and affidavits were drawn up by Boone and Weitzman, who described the weapon in detail, noting the colour of the sling and the scope. Police Captain Will Fritz was also present at the scene and he, also, is claimed to have agreed that the rifle was a 7.65 Mauser. District Attorney Henry M. Wade, in a television interview, referred to the sixth-floor discovery and quoted the weapon as a Mauser, a statement picked up by the press and reported widely. Following the finding of the gun, however, it was collected by Lieutenant. C. Day and taken to Police Headquarters, where it was logged as a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano, an Italian carbine, bearing the serial number C2766. Mannlicher-Carcano Italian carbine No. C2766, it was claimed, belonged to Lee Harvey Oswald." So Lt. Day decided he knew more than the others.

Calm down and you might learn something, in addition to the IDENTIFYING photographs while in the halls of Justice, Lt Day is filmed saying the rifle was "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940" What more do you want and where does your ranting lead?

And also see the video below, which is the complete 2013 CNN documentary that Michael Giampaolo talked about earlier (entitled "The Assassination Of President Kennedy"). And included in that program (at 20:10) is, indeed, the voice of Lieutenant J.C. Day uttering these words --- "6.5, apparently made in Italy, in 1940":
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2014/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-591.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QMBH940EMjv3zWnouwEdVQ2aGcgWMwn6/view

Thanks to DVP!

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Again why did it take until the NEXT DAY to identify by the FBI? Just answer the question that I've posed numerous times to you. If you're construing me not being calm and ranting that's on you.

 

Mr. BELIN. At what time, if you know, did you release the rifle to the FBI?
Mr. DAY. 11:45 p.m. the rifle was released or picked up by them and taken from the office.
Mr. BELIN. Was that on November 22?
Mr. DAY. November 22, 1963.

JohnM