Roger Craig

[Walt Cakebread]

I've done this Gif from the Alyea film showing the moment Day picks up the rifle. Two things need to be noted:

1) When it cuts to Day he is already crouching down with his hands on or near the rifle. There is no telling how long he was down there
    before it cuts to him.
2) At the very beginning of the clip the rifle is out of sight so we can't tell what's happening down there.

Conclusion - the Alyea clip cannot be used to support the idea the rifle was lying on its side. As soon as Day grabs the strap the rifle flips into a "lying down" position (I'm sure there's a better way to phrase it)

Copy/Paste this into your Search engine to view the image.
file:///C:/Users/Walt/Pictures/Saved%20Pictures/ScreenShotRifle.png

[Dan O'meara]

Copy/Paste this into your Search engine to view the image.
file:///C:/Users/Walt/Pictures/Saved%20Pictures/ScreenShotRifle.png

When I do it just says "Your file can't be accessed"

[John Iacoletti]

You would have to be on Walt's computer for that to actually work.

[Walt Cakebread]

You would have to be on Walt's computer for that to actually work.

I'm sorry, I had a friend do a screen shot of the Alyea film ..... I thought they had posted the screen shot....

I'll see if I can post that screen shot.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Apparently it didn't up load..... But my young friend made my day .....  When I showed them the Alyea film clip and pointed out what i wanted ( the shot of the rifle butt) And started to explain what it was that they were seeing.....They responded " oh, I could see that it is a rifle butt"    I then showed them the butt plate on a carcano and they recognized that the photo does in fact show the butt plate of a carcano.... which was no surprise to me , but the fact that they recognized it immediately made me smile.

[Dan O'meara]

Apparently it didn't up load..... But my young friend made my day .....  When I showed them the Alyea film clip and pointed out what i wanted ( the shot of the rifle butt) And started to explain what it was that they were seeing.....They responded " oh, I could see that it is a rifle butt"    I then showed them the butt plate on a carcano and they recognized that the photo does in fact show the butt plate of a carcano.... which was no surprise to me , but the fact that they recognized it immediately made me smile.

I use this to upload images.
It's free, pretty straight-forward and reliable.

https://postimages.org/

[Walt Cakebread]

I use this to upload images.
It's free, pretty straight-forward and reliable.

https://postimages.org/

Thanks, Dan.....  I'm very anxious to post the screen shot....   I know that you've said that you're bored with  talking about the Alyea film, but now that I've seen the screen shot there's no doubt that the scene isn't the same scene that is seen in the official DPD in situ photo.   

I now have a better understanding WHY the DPD allowed the Alyea clip to remain in the public domain.

The clip shows DPD detective Studebaker atop the stack of boxes.  He's just taken the in situ photo.... There's a very brief  interval about two seconds that shows the carcano lying on it's left side as Lt Day reaches out to pick up the rifle by the leather sling....   They never realized that anybody would notice that very brief glimpse of the carcano lying on it's side when they created the fake in situ photo.   ( They may not have realized that the Alyea clip actually shows the carcano....and it takes a certain familiarity with the carcano to spot the rifle. )

At any rate and for whatever reason the scene in that brief glimpse (seen in the stop action screen shot)  is totally different than the scene in the official DPD in situ.   

My friend who tried to help me post the screen shot has no knowledge of what is being filmed, and has no interest in the murder of JFK....  However ..When I pointed out that the man atop the boxes was a DPD detective, and he had just taken photos of the rifle in situ before it had been touched by anybody ....and then showed him the screen shot and the official in situ photo ....He gasped, and exclaimed....  That's ridiculous!