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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2018, 07:29:13 PM »
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LOL

'in other words'

There you go again

That's what all of these "I don't believe a conspiracy would ever do X, therefore there was no conspiracy, therefore Oswald did it" arguments amount to.  It's pure rhetoric.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2018, 07:33:03 PM »
Nobody thinks that putting his ring in the cup is 100% evidence of killing somebody.

Bugliosi did.  He said that each one of his fabulous 53 was evidence that pointed toward's Oswald's guilt.

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The point made is simply that it?s adnormal behaviour for somebody who?s just going to work and has no history of having done so previously.

So what is it doing of a list of evidence?  Just to make the list longer?

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It?s all about context. It wouldn?t stand up in a courtroom, but the courtroom rarely stands up to reality.

Exactly.  Which is why courtroom lawyers shouldn't try to do science.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2018, 07:34:42 PM »
And you have evidence of that being fake?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2018, 08:00:44 PM »
Bugliosi did.  He said that each one of his fabulous 53 was evidence that pointed toward's Oswald's guilt.

On their own... or in combo, Johnny Piecemeal?
Meantime, after 55 years you and your CT#FailArmy buddies have no one at all to point to...

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2018, 08:01:49 PM »
Bugliosi did.  He said that each one of his fabulous 53 was evidence that pointed toward's Oswald's guilt.

The ring thing is more retrospectively probative.

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So what is it doing of a list of evidence?  Just to make the list longer?

Pretty much.

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Exactly.  Which is why courtroom lawyers shouldn't try to do science.

It?s why the entire criminal justice system needs reformed.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2018, 08:39:48 PM »
The evidence in this case derives from a wide variety of different sources.  As a result, it is difficult to comprehend how any small conspiracy claim is viable when disputing that evidence in every instance.  Just take the rifle.  Think of all the information that would have to be faked to link Oswald to that rifle in this case.  It isn't just fabrication of the evidence itself, but verification of that evidence from the individuals from whom the evidence was created or obtained.   At a minimum, Marina, gun dealers, individual members of the FBI, post office, and DPD, would all have to be convinced to lie about this evidence.  And someone would have to track down and destroy all evidence to the contrary - like any records of the rifle in the possession of someone else.  The claims of a small conspiracy and doubts about the evidence are mutually exclusive.  I understand why a contrarian would want to conflate these but it doesn't add up.  Either you accept the evidence as compiled from a multitude of different sources and individuals or you are implying, by necessity, that there was a large conspiracy.   

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2018, 09:05:55 PM »
On their own... or in combo, Johnny Piecemeal?
Meantime, after 55 years you and your CT#FailArmy buddies have no one at all to point to...



"I'm automatically right until somebody proves me wrong".

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2018, 09:08:01 PM »
The ring thing is more retrospectively probative.

Pretty much.

It?s why the entire criminal justice system needs reformed.