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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2018, 07:06:35 PM »
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Are you sure, you keep alluding to each piece of evidence as being forged, planted, invented or intentionally incorrectly analysed, eyewitnesses as being incompetent, FBI being crooked, Dallas Police as being liars, Doctors lying, fake photographs and seriously your list never ends, so why the need to go way over the top and place your eggs in every basket because it just reeks of desperation.

I think you mean your strawman list never ends.  Unless, you can actually cite me "alluding to each piece of evidence as being forged, planted, invented or intentionally incorrectly analysed, eyewitnesses as being incompetent, FBI being crooked, Dallas Police as being liars, Doctors lying, fake photographs".

Not holding my breath.

I'm sure there really was a wedding ring in a cup.  I'm just wondering how that is evidence of murder.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2018, 07:22:25 PM »
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Brennan's same day affidavit description of a slender white man of about average height who appeared about 30 years old doesn't rule out Oswald

and thousands of other people.

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and out of the people we know who were in the building at the time, the sample size wasn't exactly huge

How do "we" know who was in the building at the time?

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and let's not forget that Brennan did identify one or more of the black men in the windows directly below as they walked out of the building.

That's what Brennan claimed.  It's debatable though.  Did Sorrels ever corroborate it?  I believe Norman was the only one who mentioned something like this and it's not clear from Norman's account if he recognized them as individuals or because it was 3 black men coming out of the TSBD together.

And it's not really kosher to use a person's own claim to make an argument for that same person's veracity.  It's circular.

But regardless, it's not even a good comparison, because Norman/Jarman/Williams were hanging out of the windows and not crouched down behind boxes aiming a rifle for the head shot.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2018, 07:23:41 PM »
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Here's another one.  Since the conspirators were able to fake the BY photos and alter the Zapruder film, why not just fake some photographic evidence of Saint Patsy in the 6th floor window ?

Somebody did.


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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2018, 07:25:44 PM »
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I'm sure there really was a wedding ring in a cup.  I'm just wondering how that is evidence of murder.

Nobody thinks that putting his ring in the cup is 100% evidence of killing somebody.

The point made is simply that it’s adnormal behaviour for somebody who’s just going to work and has no history of having done so previously. It’s all about context. It wouldn’t stand up in a courtroom, but the courtroom rarely stands up to reality.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2018, 07:26:17 PM »
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Somebody did.



And you have evidence of that being fake?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2018, 07:27:25 PM »
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The answer is obvious.  If you imply the evidence is suspect or fake over and over, but refuse to acknowledge that you are alleging a conspiracy (which by implication must be the case to explain the fakery),

Why would it necessarily take more than one person to fabricate evidence?

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For example, he implied that you had posted fake info regarding who had posted on a recent thread even though he himself had participated on that thread and knew he was lying.

I think you are really so delusional that you can't tell the difference between your assumptions about what people do/think/say and what they actually do/think/say.  You're not a mindreader, so stop pretending that you are.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2018, 07:29:13 PM »
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LOL

'in other words'

There you go again

That's what all of these "I don't believe a conspiracy would ever do X, therefore there was no conspiracy, therefore Oswald did it" arguments amount to.  It's pure rhetoric.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2018, 07:33:03 PM »
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Nobody thinks that putting his ring in the cup is 100% evidence of killing somebody.

Bugliosi did.  He said that each one of his fabulous 53 was evidence that pointed toward's Oswald's guilt.

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The point made is simply that it’s adnormal behaviour for somebody who’s just going to work and has no history of having done so previously.

So what is it doing of a list of evidence?  Just to make the list longer?

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It’s all about context. It wouldn’t stand up in a courtroom, but the courtroom rarely stands up to reality.

Exactly.  Which is why courtroom lawyers shouldn't try to do science.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2018, 07:34:42 PM »
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And you have evidence of that being fake?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2018, 08:00:44 PM »
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Bugliosi did.  He said that each one of his fabulous 53 was evidence that pointed toward's Oswald's guilt.

On their own... or in combo, Johnny Piecemeal?
Meantime, after 55 years you and your CT#FailArmy buddies have no one at all to point to...

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2018, 08:00:44 PM »