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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 10:40:28 AM »
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I think the chances that the Babushka lady would be back in Dealey Plaza two days after the assassination, and seen still wearing the same coat and scarf is remote.
to my eyes, this woman doesn't appear to be Babushka.

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Well, my thought was that some witnesses might return, with friends or family, to share what happened and to mourn. I'll wear the same coat until I have to get a new one, but then, I'm not a lady.

If she did return, that might indicate that she was not a tourist, but lived in Dallas or near Dallas.

I do have an odd feeling that - just like the Skaggs photo's - her material will turn up within the next ten years.  Recalling the story related by Gary Mack about a women in her thirties turning up at the Kodak-office and her blurry picture ... she must have taken more pictures than the one when she stood behind Charles Brehm and his boy during the shots.



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Hi Arjan! Would first like to welcome you to the forum. And also for bringing this to our attention and the link to the movie clips.

Right now I'm at work and can only view this on my cellphone. I would like to have a better look on my home computer. But you do raise a good point. If this were her, the woman being more likely a local makes a lot of sense to me. We know that some did return the following day. Orville Nix returned the following morning with his wife because he wanted to show her where he stood while he filmed the previous day. Some could have returned just to mourn.

Thank you Rick,

I'll be looking forward to any possible fruits of your labour.
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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 05:07:35 PM »
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A profile could be someting like that: a woman middle age, middle class living outside of Dallas, living alone, single or divorced or widow, democrat, with at least high school education,capable to handle a camera, above average iq............

I'd say around 30 yrs old
Living in or near Dallas, east of Dealey Plaza
Went to DP on her own
Did not interact much with other witnesses (speaks little English or is shy?)
Owns a (photo?)camera (I don't know how common this was in 63 in Texas)
Married to someone in the military, someone who works with camera's
May have thought that her photo's didn't matter (like Scaggs)
Didn't show her photo's because Oswald had already been publically declared the sole assassin
Didn't show her photo's on account of her husband or family's relations to the military or government
about 5ft1 or 5ft2 tall
Glasses
Brown hair, a lock of hair showing, a tuft attached with a hairpin?
She's brave
She's curious
She keeps herself to herself

Not saying its her, but in my mind she looks a bit like this lady, Rosemary Causey:



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Have there ever been other candidates, besides B. Oliver?


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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 07:05:21 PM »
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I'd say around 30 yrs old
Living in or near Dallas, east of Dealey Plaza
Went to DP on her own
Did not interact much with other witnesses (speaks little English or is shy?)
Owns a (photo?)camera (I don't know how common this was in 63 in Texas)
Married to someone in the military, someone who works with camera's
May have thought that her photo's didn't matter (like Scaggs)
Didn't show her photo's because Oswald had already been publically declared the sole assassin
Didn't show her photo's on account of her husband or family's relations to the military or government
about 5ft1 or 5ft2 tall
Glasses
Brown hair, a lock of hair showing, a tuft attached with a hairpin?
She's brave
She's curious
She keeps herself to herself

Not saying its her, but in my mind she looks a bit like this lady, Rosemary Causey:



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Have there ever been other candidates, besides B. Oliver?


Very interesting.

Rosemary is 5' 1" with a five-year-old mentally-challenged son named Kevin. She lived 1927-2009. Her husband, Max, was made foreman of the Ruby jury; he died in 1997.

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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 09:01:16 PM »
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Went to DP on her own
you mean she went alone or she went with her own vehicle?



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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 09:09:59 AM »
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you mean she went alone or she went with her own vehicle?




She was in the Plaza flying solo, as opposed to many others who were with friends, family or colleagues.
She was last spotted walking east on Elm street and most likely she came to the Plaza from an eastern direction as well.

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What else can we say about her headscarf?
It looks like she is wearing one with a floral pattern, white and blue or white and pink/purple colours?



She wears the headscarf tied under her chin, making less of her face visible.



With a big tuft of hair sticking out, isn't this called a Cosmo-look? I'm just cruising around sixties hair-styles here on amateur-mode.


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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 02:02:40 PM »
Maybe research scarves from Neiman Marcus stores from that time. Or Sears.

It was a fashion then. Today we think it was only for older women.

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Re: Babushka Lady 24-11-1963 in Andre Leche footage?
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 04:48:55 PM »
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Married to someone in the military, someone who works with camera's
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Didn't show her photo's on account of her husband or family's relations to the military or government

hmm very interesting i am start thinking that angle,
let's see,  something like this:
the US Army and Law enforcement personnel in south (and from south), were mostly extreme rightists, racists, JFK haters, anti-communists.
So in BL's quest, we could search for an oppressed army wife of a middle ranked military officer in a base stationed in Dallas or close to Dallas in Texas Area.
BL should be crypto JFK admirer, dressed carefully not to be recognized by anyone in DP.
Maybe visiting DP and seeing JFK was her little-big revolution in all her life.

Now military units close to Dallas....... let's see what about Fort Worth Naval Air Station. Could BL followed JFK all the way from Fort Worth? Sould we search earlier that day and not the next day?