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Offline Michael O'Brian

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #450 on: March 10, 2019, 05:55:00 PM »
Pay attention, and knock off the obscenities .....  I DID NOT  say, or imply that Lee tried to shoot Walker.   I said that he fired a bullet through Walker's window, and I doubt that Walker was in that room at the time.   It was simply a Hoax and Walker was part of it....  The hoax was intended to make it appear as if Lee Oswald, a commie and a Castro Sympathizer, had tried to kill Castro's foe....

I agree it was a hoax, but Lee had nothing to do with it at all, and yes it was designed to make Walker look like a victim.
It was also good practice for the shooter (Walkers military buddie) because it was a very similar scenario to the shot, that got fired from the Dal Tex into the TSBD and out onto Elm from the alleged S.N, the ark of fire to both targets was exactly the same fired in through both window frames. 
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #451 on: March 10, 2019, 06:03:47 PM »
I agree it was a hoax, but Lee had nothing to do with it at all, it was designed to make Walker look like a victim and it was also good practice for the shooter because it was a very similar scenario to the shot, that got fired from the Dal Tex into the TSBD and out onto Elm the ark of fire to both targets was exactly the same out through both window frames.

If Lee had nothing to do with the hoax.... Then explain why he created the phony dossier which had photos of Walker's house and the area around Walker's house, plus maps of the area and bus schedules.... and most important a Back Yard photo....which portrayed him as a well armed commie revolutionary ( which he wasn't, but the photo was like a carnival gag photo.)

And if you can explain that phony dossier...Then explain why he told Marina that he'd taken a shot at Walker....  And Why ..George De Morenschildt. asked him...  ( with a wink) Lee, How could you miss?     

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #452 on: March 10, 2019, 06:46:47 PM »
Don't believe any of that so called evidence, Marina was brainwashed to the hilt, they drove the woman to insanity.
Both shots through window frames were fired by the same guy, but it was not Lee


Mr O,  You haven't tried to explain any of the problems I presented , and asked you to explain....  You can't dismiss it by saying it was all a lie....

If Lee had nothing to do with the hoax.... Then explain why he created the phony dossier which had photos of Walker's house and the area around Walker's house, plus maps of the area and bus schedules.... and most important a Back Yard photo....which portrayed him as a well armed commie revolutionary ( which he wasn't, but the photo was like a carnival gag photo.)

And if you can explain that phony dossier...Then explain why he told Marina that he'd taken a shot at Walker....  And Why ..George De Morenschildt. asked him...  ( with a wink) Lee, How could you miss?   

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #453 on: June 18, 2019, 07:34:50 PM »
     It's not unusual for those of us laboring part of our lives without remuneration or thanks in this field to gain courage and encouragement in the face of painful adversity by the occasional hat tip or the example of others who suffered the shame and berating that awaits, and to be sure it isn't just painful to be shunned for a view that isn't accepted it can be painful when someone you respect begs out.  Sadly for me, my views have caused enough pain to Duncan that he banned me for a long, long time.  I wasn't idle.  My beliefs are well known, I keep finding corroboration and I wonder how it can be ignored, such as this example from 1962, a book about Oswald Mosley with Gen. Edwin Walker's name on the dust jacket.   Just look down at the bottom.  I'm arguing for indexology as a function of the plotters.



I have a feeling I'm going to regret this but corroboration of what?  Walker's name is mentioned in relation to a blurb on right-wing extremism.  He was a well-known right wing extremist (just ask Oswald who tried to kill him for that reason).  So what?

Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #454 on: June 18, 2019, 11:55:21 PM »
      I don't see why you'd regret it, unless you just mean having to adjust your awareness to a different approach.   I am referring to corroboration of my belief that there is an Index at work, which derives from the overall framework of the hit:  a Texas Schoolbook.   Kennedy wasn't planning to be murdered, unlike King, who was much more immediately aware of that prospect, he didn't leave much indication of what his life's meaning would be; surely Johnson wasn't what he had in mind.  The killers, I sense, had this outcome chockful of their ideas.  We are forced either to accept oblivion about JFK, adopt what they conveyed or admit our own negligence in picking up the torch they grabbed from his grasp.  The sad fact is that magazine society and general interest publishers simply eulogized him into the dustbin, clap clap for Johnny style.

       However when you look at the index that develops, Oswald, for example, being a signifier for Oswald Mosley begins to make sense in terms of the very direct association that Walker, who threatened JFK, had with him.   Turning the tables on JFK, Walker made up a story about Oswald shooting at him, and framed a patsy, getting JFK killed and making himself a hero all in one twist.  It's the twist that is so telltale.

         

Mac, Walker never claimed LHO took a shot at him. To state "Walker made up a story about Oswald shooting at him, and framed a patsy" is simply not true. Even if Walker had made such a claim how would that have made him a "hero"? Your post is not only incorrect, it makes absolutely no sense.
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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #455 on: June 19, 2019, 12:14:57 AM »
      By being the victim of the nut of the Kennedy assassination Walker managed, somehow, to restore his legitimacy as a political entity, sir.   That's the man Oswald tried to kill before he killed JFK sort of puts them on an even kilter.  It would be like me saying the people who tortured me killed John Lennon, right?  Sort of elevates me, playing all big, as they say in Pittsburgh.   Walker seems to me, not to contradict you, but very party to the little put on.  By the ways, what became of the license plate on the car outside his house?  LMW28IF?

I don't accept that 'explanation' for one second. Never mind, we can agree to differ. Now, can you please address your completely incorrect claim that "Walker made up a story about Oswald shooting at him" I repeat, that simply is not true. Walker never claimed LHO took a shot at him. Where did you get that?

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #456 on: June 19, 2019, 12:37:15 AM »
     Yes, I assume that you mean in cross-checking the fact you would find that Gen. Walker reported being shot at and that Marina claimed Lee confessed to doing it.   Walker, in that scenario, would be disappointed, angry and surprised to learn that it had been Oswald and relieved to learn that such a man was gone and the world was now safe.   I'm simply accusing Walker of ventriloquism, Denis.  Once I read who he was, that he threatened Kennedy, and that the patsy was all perfectly manufactured and paraded so that Walker was voila way above suspicion, a victim himself no less, I concluded that Walker indirectly set up Oswald as having shot at him, too.  I hope the clarification allows you to see the process I used to arrive at that narrative despite what you probably legitimately feel is research-related weakness.

I like 'facts' in statements to be accurate, that's all, mate. Just coz I like yer doesn't mean I'm gonna let yer get away with Jack s***. lol  Thumb1:

PS Mac, you're getting confused. The license plate number LMW28IF you asked about is the number on the white VW Beetle in the background of The Beatles Abbey RD album.
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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #457 on: June 19, 2019, 09:05:12 AM »
I like 'facts' in statements to be accurate, that's all, mate. Just coz I like yer doesn't mean I'm gonna let yer get away with Jack s***. lol  Thumb1:

PS Mac, you're getting confused. The license plate number LMW28IF you asked about is the number on the white VW Beetle in the background of The Beatles Abbey RD album.

The licence plate number is "LMW 28 1F" not "IF".

Sorry to be pedantic.

Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #458 on: June 19, 2019, 01:13:24 PM »
The licence plate number is "LMW 28 1F" not "IF".

Sorry to be pedantic.

Really? OK, thanks. Glad to be corrected.  Thumb1:
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Offline Michael O'Brian

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #459 on: June 20, 2019, 05:18:45 PM »
If Lee had nothing to do with the hoax.... Then explain why he created the phony dossier which had photos of Walker's house and the area around Walker's house, plus maps of the area and bus schedules.... and most important a Back Yard photo....which portrayed him as a well armed commie revolutionary ( which he wasn't, but the photo was like a carnival gag photo.)

And if you can explain that phony dossier...Then explain why he told Marina that he'd taken a shot at Walker....  And Why ..George De Morenschildt. asked him...  ( with a wink) Lee, How could you miss?   

Hello Walt
Can we believe anything whatsoever that they say about Oswald? a lot of things were made up, to suit the W.C findings witness's fobbed off and others put in their place to manufacture the evidence.
I can't even come around to say for sure that Oswald even attended Paines house on the Thursday, because the first report which Marina gave stated he had called around on the 14th and was in good spirits, according to her, he mentioned that he almost had the money for them to all live together.
So if we can't go with this why bother even consider that he shot at Walker, whoever fired at Walkers house done it with Walkers knowledge, it was a practice shot, and also to give him an alibi.
The similarities of both shooting are just too close.
So if my theory of the Dal Tex having a line of sight through the TSBD 6th floor then it entered the TSBD window, just like the shot entered Walkers window.
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