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Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #380 on: September 26, 2018, 08:05:56 PM »
Captain Fritz picked up the rifle...
Fritz picked up the shells.
Day picked up the rifle.
Handed it to Fritz.
It wasn't a Mauser.
It's on film.

Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #381 on: September 26, 2018, 08:52:15 PM »
I forgot.

DP crime scene preservation.

That wasn't on film was it?
Only after it was contaminated.

Offline Steve Logan

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #382 on: September 26, 2018, 09:09:30 PM »
Right, so who knows what else happened until Alyea arrived.
I guess it's a mystery.

Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #383 on: September 27, 2018, 01:42:11 AM »


The rifle APPEARED  to be a 7.65 mauser...IOW.... Weitzman could as well have said... "The rifle looked like a 7.65 mauser   
 to me, But I never examined it there in the building....and later I learned that the rifle was NOT a 7.65 mauser, and I corrected my mistake..

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #384 on: September 27, 2018, 03:57:24 AM »
Robbie, You call me a liar.....  A liar is a person who KNOWS the truth, about some event, but deliberately states something that is totally contrary to the truth.

You apparently believe that a person who has a opinion that contradicts and destroys your opinion is a liar......not because the person is in fact lying,  but because that person challenges you .....

I'm not the only person here who recognizes that you're a nut, Rob........

Wally, your opinion flies in the face of the evidence. That is a trait of a LNer.

Insulting others who point out that your opinion flies in the face of the evidence is also a trait of a LNer.

Wally, just admit the truth already -- you're a LNer.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #385 on: September 27, 2018, 04:01:09 AM »
Except for that pesky 7.65 Mauser that Boone, Weitzman, and Craig reported...

And the 7.65 shell that was found. And the CIA memo that mentioned a Mauser. And Wade saying that it was a Mauser at his late night November 22, 1963, press conference.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #386 on: September 27, 2018, 04:05:32 AM »
The rifle APPEARED  to be a 7.65 mauser...IOW.... Weitzman could as well have said... "The rifle looked like a 7.65 mauser   
 to me, But I never examined it there in the building....and later I learned that the rifle was NOT a 7.65 mauser, and I corrected my mistake..

Wally is still ignoring the evidence. Cite a report that says it was a 6.5 Carcano.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #387 on: September 27, 2018, 04:06:24 AM »
What we know.

All the identifiable bullet fragments in the Limo were exclusively linked to Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor.
Oswald's rifle was exclusively linked to the 3 shells in the sniper's nest.
Oswald's prints were on boxes in the sniper's nest including the one of the two Rolling Reaer boxes which were moved over 40 feet and were angled down Elm street along with Oswald's prints which were orientated the same way.
Oswald's prints were on the rifle.
Oswald's arrest shirt fibers matched 3 of the fibers on Oswald's rifle.
Oswald left the building immediately.
Oswald caught buses and cabs in his desperate flight get out of Dallas.
Oswald kills a cop.
When arrested Oswald wants to kill more cops.

And this is just quickly off the top of my head, and in response in court or an upcoming Iacoletti list, you people by necessity would be reduced to saying that each and every piece of this evidence was somehow faked, manufactured or misrepresented but as the lists get longer the involvement of conspirators and their helpers gets proportionally higher.

The most similar situation you guys would face would be OJ. The OJ team knew to defend the indefensible you have to shift focus from the accused to the accuser and in the shadow of Rodney King that was a winning formula. This might make an interesting thread, how exactly in court would the CT's here defend the indefensible?

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #388 on: September 27, 2018, 09:25:58 PM »
What we know.

Completely misrepresented.

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All the identifiable bullet fragments in the Limo were exclusively linked to Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's rifle was found on the 6th floor.
Oswald's rifle was exclusively linked to the 3 shells in the sniper's nest.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.  And actually "All the identifiable bullet fragments in the Limo" is a misrepresentation of two bullet fragments which can't be proven to have come from the limo.

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Oswald's prints were on boxes in the sniper's nest including the one of the two Rolling Reaer boxes which were moved over 40 feet and were angled down Elm street along with Oswald's prints which were orientated the same way.

How far certain boxes were moved is pure speculation, and it's not at all remarkable that a guy whose job was getting books out of boxes would have left prints on boxes.

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Oswald's prints were on the rifle.

No, the prints in the trigger guard area were useless for identification purposes and a single partial palmprint turned up a week later on an index card.

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Oswald's arrest shirt fibers matched 3 of the fibers on Oswald's rifle.

But couldn't be exclusively identified as coming from any specific shirt.

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Oswald left the building immediately.

Speculation.  And define "immediately".

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Oswald caught buses and cabs in his desperate flight get out of Dallas.

Speculation and assumption, not evidence.

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Oswald kills a cop.

Unproven.

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When arrested Oswald wants to kill more cops.

Speculation and assumption, not evidence.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #389 on: September 27, 2018, 09:42:47 PM »
Completely misrepresented.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.  And actually "All the identifiable bullet fragments in the Limo" is a misrepresentation of two bullet fragments which can't be proven to have come from the limo.

How far certain boxes were moved is pure speculation, and it's not at all remarkable that a guy whose job was getting books out of boxes would have left prints on boxes.

No, the prints in the trigger guard area were useless for identification purposes and a single partial palmprint turned up a week later on an index card.

But couldn't be exclusively identified as coming from any specific shirt.

Speculation.  And define "immediately".

Speculation and assumption, not evidence.

Unproven.

Speculation and assumption, not evidence.

All the identifiable bullet fragments in the Limo" is a misrepresentation of two bullet fragments which can't be proven to have come from the limo.

All of the identifiable fragments??   Those two bullet fragments COULD NOT have been traced to any particular rifle.....J.Edgar Hoover himself told LBJ that the fragments were worthless for tracing to a particular rifle.   

LBJ wanted something solid that they could connect to the carcano...and Lee Oswald, but Hoover told him the fragments were weak evidence, because it's impossible to match fragments to a specific rifle barrel.

a single partial palmprint turned up a week later on an index card.


The palm print did not turn up a week later.....It was listed on the evidence list of the stuff that was turned over to the FBI  at midnight 11 / 22 / 63 .....  It was examined by the FBI lab on 11 /23/63 and reported to be useless for identification purposes.....

Common sense would reveal to any reasonably intelligent person that a man's palm print could not be deposited on a round surface whose diameter is that of a AA pen light battery..... 5/8"....  Which is the diameter of the carcano barrel near the fore grip.

 

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