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Offline Mitch Todd

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #350 on: September 22, 2018, 08:23:59 PM »
The extra turns in Ft Worth weren't absolutely required, either. But there they happened all the same. Therefore, the Rob Caprio-devised standard of minimizing turns wasn't used in planning Presidential motorcades. They had their own standards, based primarily on the realities of 1963 politics, and not on some invented latter-day Caprian notion of proper protocol.

Anyway, you are the guy claiming that the straight-up-your-Elm-bub route was so superior that the Main-Houston-Elm router should not have been used. It is up to you to prove it. And you have to prove it to the standards of the day and place, not whatever you invent to suit yourself. You simply haven't done that, and it's your burden, kid.
So you still can't support their claim. Got it.
You're the one who claims that your route is so much better that the only reason They would have used it is to make it easier to shoot JFK. It's up to you to prove that. Anything else is BS on your part.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #351 on: September 22, 2018, 09:54:57 PM »
And that proves that there was no Mauser too how? Talk about having your head buried.

Duh..... I said..."Roger Craig never saw a mauser in the TSBD that afternoon, Rob....".

But perhaps you can prove that statement isn't true.....All you have to do is document that Roger Craig saw and examined a rifle that...quote...." had 7.65 Mauser stamped right there on the barrel"

IOW...   Show me WHEN Roger Craig would have seen and examined such a gun....We know from Craig's own words that it couldn't have been prior to the discovery of the Carcano.   ( Commonsense dictates that if they had found a rifle prior to finding the Carcano they wouldn't have continued searching  for a rifle)

And we have film that shows Roger Craig in the background as Day and Fritz examine the Carcano.    Since Roger Craig most certainly believed that they had found the weapon at that time he wouldn't have continued searching....And He himself said that he left the building shortly after the discovery of the rifle which photos reveal is a Carcano.

Now knock off the BS ..... Either prove that there was a Mauser found in the TSBD and Roger Craig was close enough to that Mauser that he could read the stamping on the rifle...OR be honest for once, and admit you are WRONG......

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #352 on: September 24, 2018, 09:01:00 PM »
( Commonsense dictates that if they had found a rifle prior to finding the Carcano they wouldn't have continued searching  for a rifle)

Why?  Did they somehow know that only one weapon was involved?

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« Reply #353 on: September 24, 2018, 09:56:24 PM »
Why?  Did they somehow know that only one weapon was involved?

When they found the spent shells Clairvoyant Captain Will Fritz told the police officers to search the sixth floor because the rifle "had to be there somewhere" ( How did he know that???)  The men searched the sixth floor and did not find the rifle....Captain Fritz told them to spread out and keep looking because that rifle "Had to be there" ... So when the 6.5 Carcano was found well hidden beneath heavy pallets of books the search was over.....

Is this too difficult for you to comprehend??

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« Reply #354 on: September 24, 2018, 11:07:08 PM »
How does any of that indicate that only one weapon was involved?

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« Reply #355 on: September 25, 2018, 12:35:43 AM »
Why?  Did they somehow know that only one weapon was involved?

Did they somehow know that only one weapon was involved?


Show me one single instance where anybody suggested that there was more than one gunman in the TSBD at the time they were searching ....   

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« Reply #356 on: September 25, 2018, 05:33:44 PM »
Did they somehow know that only one weapon was involved?


Show me one single instance where anybody suggested that there was more than one gunman in the TSBD at the time they were searching ....

How would they have known anything about it, one way or the other, at the time they were searching?  It's not like they interviewed all the Dealey Plaza witnesses first...

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« Reply #357 on: September 25, 2018, 06:45:06 PM »
How would they have known anything about it, one way or the other, at the time they were searching?  It's not like they interviewed all the Dealey Plaza witnesses first...

I've never heard of anybody suggesting that there was more than one gunman and one gun in the TSBD at the time of the Coup d e'tat.      And the police had been lead to believe that there was a single gunman in the building because Howard Brennan told them he saw a LONE (single) gunman standing and aiming a hunting rifle out of a sixth floor window... Likewise Arnold Rowland told the cops that he'd seen a LONE man with a HUNTING rifle behind a sixth floor window and Amos Euins told them he saw a "pipe like thing" sticking out of a sixth floor window. 

There isn't a single report of anybody seeing more than one gunman and one rifle in the TSBD at the time of the coup d e'tat.    So there would have been no reason to search for another rifle after they found the Mannlicher Carcano....

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« Reply #358 on: September 25, 2018, 07:29:03 PM »
I've never heard of anybody suggesting that there was more than one gunman and one gun in the TSBD at the time of the Coup d e'tat.      And the police had been lead to believe that there was a single gunman in the building because Howard Brennan told them he saw a LONE (single) gunman standing and aiming a hunting rifle out of a sixth floor window... Likewise Arnold Rowland told the cops that he'd seen a LONE man with a HUNTING rifle behind a sixth floor window and Amos Euins told them he saw a "pipe like thing" sticking out of a sixth floor window. 

How do you know what Brennan, Rowland, and Euins told the cops before they searched the building?  And even so, how would that have ruled out another possible shooter at that time?

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #359 on: September 25, 2018, 07:42:35 PM »
How do you know what Brennan, Rowland, and Euins told the cops before they searched the building?  And even so, how would that have ruled out another possible shooter at that time?

On what ?are you basing the idea that there was more than one gunman and one gun in the TSBD at the time of the shooting?

 

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