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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #100 on: August 30, 2018, 08:58:47 PM »
Ugh.  Marina confirmed that she had never heard of LBJ before the assassination.  As a result she had no idea that LBJ was the VP until after the assassination.  She knew Nixon as the VP.   Nixon was a well-known figure who had visited the USSR.  Marina specifically states that in her testimony.

"I believe what Marina says, except when I don't believe what Marina says."

Mrs. OSWALD. The FBI suggested that possibly I was confused between Johnson and Nixon but there is no question that in this incident it was a question of Mr. Nixon. I remember distinctly the name Nixon because I read from the presidential elections that there was a choice between President Kennedy and Mr. Nixon.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #101 on: August 30, 2018, 09:29:22 PM »
"I believe what Marina says, except when I don't believe what Marina says."

Mrs. OSWALD. The FBI suggested that possibly I was confused between Johnson and Nixon but there is no question that in this incident it was a question of Mr. Nixon. I remember distinctly the name Nixon because I read from the presidential elections that there was a choice between President Kennedy and Mr. Nixon.

The Walker incident was a HOAX.....  It was intended to appear as though LHO had tried to kill one of Castro's most vocal foes with the idea that Castro would allow the American secret agent, Lee H Oswald safe sancctuary in Cuba. The "evidence" left behind  ( Rifle under the brush,  Back Yard photos, maps of Walker's neighborhood, photos of Walker's house  ) was deliberate and intended to lead to the culprit who had fled to Cuba.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #102 on: August 30, 2018, 09:31:28 PM »
"I believe what Marina says, except when I don't believe what Marina says."

Mrs. OSWALD. The FBI suggested that possibly I was confused between Johnson and Nixon but there is no question that in this incident it was a question of Mr. Nixon. I remember distinctly the name Nixon because I read from the presidential elections that there was a choice between President Kennedy and Mr. Nixon.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #103 on: August 31, 2018, 02:16:51 AM »
Walker's Ph. #?
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pdf/WH16_CE_18.pdf
Page 3, top left.
OK...It's there and there it is.
I would have thought the producers of the Warren Report exhibits would have super-pointed that out.
Well oops there.
I noticed it right above '600 Baliey' [sic] which could be 600 Bailey Ft Worth Tx which is presently a Chase Bank.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #104 on: August 31, 2018, 02:31:20 AM »
Except for that pesky steel-jacketed bullet...

"Marina said so" isn't particularly compelling.  Marina said a lot of things.

Marina Oswald Porter's Statements of a Contradictory Nature

"My assumptions are automatically correct until you prove me wrong".

"Except for that pesky steel-jacketed bullet"...

That couldn't possibly be a simple error by a sleepy, sloppy,  cop typing the report, and calling a METAL jacket a steel jacket,.... could it?

Offline Mitch Todd

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #105 on: August 31, 2018, 03:24:26 AM »
So the group that didn't punish anyone for violating rules wouldn't let non-believers of the official theory copy their manual. Say it isn't so.
In other words, no one can provide any support for the 44mph claim. I've asked repeatedly, and no one has ever been able to substantiate it.

You can mock Fletcher Prouty all you want, but he was the Air Force's CIA liason and worked on numerous presidential trips in regards to security. What are your qualifications?
He was also a crack investigator for the Church of Scientology who "found" that L Ron Hubbard was a super-secret double-nought agent for the ONI in WWII. He first achieved public notice by claiming that Alex Butterfield (who oversaw the installation of the soon-to-be infamous taping system in the Nixon White House) was a CIA plant. He associated with Neo-Nazi sympathizer Willis Carto and Carto's Liberty Lobby.

He was AF liaison with the CIA, not the Secret Service, and IIRC, no one has ever been able to substantiate his claim that he'd been involved in Presidential security, or explain what his role would have been, or show that he would have been exposed to the rules and standards that he claimed to be familiar with.
AFAIK, no one has ever been able to independently corroborate Prouty's claims about Presidential motorcade security.

There was NO need for those turns. End of story.

The motorcade moved at parade speed, about 15mph. At that speed, those turns would have done little to slow the limo down, even with its extra length. That is, the point you're trying to make isn't really much of a point. Anyway, if reducing the President's vulnerability was the priority, they wouldn't have gone to downtown in the first place; they would have gone from Love Field to Mockingbird to Harry Hines, thence the Trade Mart, avoiding the extra trip downtown altogether.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #106 on: August 31, 2018, 03:33:21 AM »

He was also a crack investigator for the Church of Scientology who "found" that L Ron Hubbard was a super-secret double-nought agent for the ONI in WWII. He first achieved public notice by claiming that Alex Butterfield (who oversaw the installation of the soon-to-be infamous taping system in the Nixon White House) was a CIA plant. He associated with Neo-Nazi sympathizer Willis Carto and Carto's Liberty Lobby.


I think quite a few CTs are on the right.

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He was AF liaison with the CIA, not the Secret Service, and IIRC, no one has ever been able to substantiate his claim that he'd been involved in Presidential security, or explain what his role would have been, or show that he would have been exposed to the rules and standards that he claimed to be familiar with.
AFAIK, no one has ever been able to independently corroborate Prouty's claims about Presidential motorcade security.


Remember Cyril Wecht and the Alien Autopsy? Jim Garrison? Some well-known CTs are 911-Truthers.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #107 on: August 31, 2018, 04:08:17 AM »
In other words, no one can provide any support for the 44mph claim. I've asked repeatedly, and no one has ever been able to substantiate it.
He was also a crack investigator for the Church of Scientology who "found" that L Ron Hubbard was a super-secret double-nought agent for the ONI in WWII. He first achieved public notice by claiming that Alex Butterfield (who oversaw the installation of the soon-to-be infamous taping system in the Nixon White House) was a CIA plant. He associated with Neo-Nazi sympathizer Willis Carto and Carto's Liberty Lobby.

He was AF liaison with the CIA, not the Secret Service, and IIRC, no one has ever been able to substantiate his claim that he'd been involved in Presidential security, or explain what his role would have been, or show that he would have been exposed to the rules and standards that he claimed to be familiar with.
AFAIK, no one has ever been able to independently corroborate Prouty's claims about Presidential motorcade security.

The motorcade moved at parade speed, about 15mph. At that speed, those turns would have done little to slow the limo down, even with its extra length. That is, the point you're trying to make isn't really much of a point. Anyway, if reducing the President's vulnerability was the priority, they wouldn't have gone to downtown in the first place; they would have gone from Love Field to Mockingbird to Harry Hines, thence the Trade Mart, avoiding the extra trip downtown altogether.

Cite for your claim of 15 m.p.h. being "parade speed."

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #108 on: August 31, 2018, 04:14:15 AM »
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any support for the 44mph claim
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Guys Guys- go start a silly motorcade speed thread!!
This is  the General Walker thread.

Offline Mitch Todd

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #109 on: August 31, 2018, 05:48:54 AM »
I think quite a few CTs are on the right.
Oh, mon oui, monsieur! Mary Ferrell comes to mind. But some are farther right than others. Carto and his bunch could really get out there. Like Instiute of Historical Review out there.


Remember Cyril Wecht and the Alien Autopsy? Jim Garrison? Some well-known CTs are 911-Truthers.

Wecht's association with the Alien Autopsy thing was purely business, I suspect. His part was to get asked if the "film" showed accepted autopsy procedures, and say "yes." That was about it. Prouty flitted around the LL for a number of years.

 

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