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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #72 on: August 30, 2018, 02:52:50 AM »
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I agree the photo in isolation doesn't prove Oswald shot at Walker.

Completely disagree with 'the totality of the evidence falls short of us being able to say he likely did it'.

I think the photo, the note to Marina, and the confession to Marina is more than sufficient to say 'he likely did it'.

The unsigned and undated Note to Marina that doesn't even mention Walker is worthless as evidence

The confession to Marina isn't worthless but it should not be taken to heart in the absence of corroborating evidence. Like for example, did she tell anyone about it before her husband was killed? Did she keep a diary? Her word alone isn't enough given her credibility problems.

The other problem I have is no one seems to be able to explain how Oswald traveled across town and back with a rifle without being noticed. There's also conflicting stories between Marina and George DM about whether he came home with the rifle the same night or if he buried it near Walker's house and picked it up a few days later. 

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
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Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #73 on: August 30, 2018, 03:16:16 AM »
The unsigned and undated Note to Marina that doesn't even mention Walker is worthless as evidence

The confession to Marina isn't worthless but it should not be taken to heart in the absence of corroborating evidence. Like for example, did she tell anyone about it before her husband was killed? Did she keep a diary. Her word alone isn't enough given her credibility problems.

The other problem I have is no one seems to be able to explain how Oswald traveled across town and back with a rifle without being noticed. There's also conflicting stories between Marina and George DM about whether he came home with the rifle the same night or if he buried it near Walker's house and picked it up a few days later.

The unsigned, undated note is evidence Saint Patsy was worried about being arrested for some act, no ? That is, unless you think the note is a forgery, written by someone else, or composed after the Walker shooting.

Yeah, it's possible Marina's story regarding the confession is fabricated but as you say, it's not worthless.

As far as how Saint Patsy got across town with a rifle without being noticed, could have been done a million ways. A passenger sitting on a bus with a rolled up blanket on his lap, for example.

As I said earlier, I think there's more than sufficient evidence to say 'he likely did it'.

Photo, note, admission to wife, works for me.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #74 on: August 30, 2018, 03:18:20 AM »

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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #75 on: August 30, 2018, 03:29:10 AM »
The unsigned, undated note is evidence Saint Patsy was worried about being arrested for some act, no ? That is, unless you think the note is a forgery, written by someone else, or composed after the Walker shooting.

Yeah, it's possible Marina's story regarding the confession is fabricated but as you say, it's not worthless.

As far as how Saint Patsy got across town with a rifle without being noticed, could have been done a million ways. A passenger sitting on a bus with a rolled up blanket on his lap, for example.

As I said earlier, I think there's more than sufficient evidence to say 'he likely did it'.

Photo, note, admission to wife, works for me.

Oswald had a motive for sure but so did millions of others.

Edwin Walker was a hated man in 1963 because of his pro-Segregation activism.

Like I said, I have no problem with saying Oswald should be a Suspect. I just think the evidence falls far short of proof.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #76 on: August 30, 2018, 03:55:58 AM »
Oswald...allegedly shot JFK...allegedly took one at Walker.
Those two proposed targets were men that were [politically speaking] diametrically opposed.
Walker strongly disliked Kennedy [putting it mildly] ::)
That in itself would make these actions perceptively intangible.

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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2018, 04:31:10 AM »
LOL! You think that 44 m.p.h. is "too fast?" LOL!

Then he mentions one of the two turns that should NOT have been permitted in the first place! LOL! The motorcade could have, and should have, come straight down Elm Street to avoid the need for any turns. IF Main Street was needed then the motorcade could have stayed on it and connected to the Stemmons Freeway past the Triple Underpass.

Cool story bro, but as usual you are totally clueless about the evidence.

The Main/Elm/Commerce/35E intersection is specifically designed to discourage anyone on Main from trying to get onto the ramp to 35E. That's for safety: people aren't going to be turning from Main across Elm to get on 35. For the limo to go from Main to the ramp, the the limo would have to execute a u-turn onto Elm Eastbound, then immediately execute another u-turn to get onto the ramp. The limo would have to slow to a crawl to make that happen.....if it could execute the maneuver at all without resorting to 2- or 3-point turns. Long wheelbase vehicles aren't known for their cornering agility.  If people would just look at a map, or an aerial photo they'd see why a Main-to-35E path doesn't work.

I've always wondered where the 44mph thing came from. I figure it started either with Garrison or Prouty, who claimed that it was some Secret Service requirement. The thing is, in 30 years, I've never seen anyone cough up any documentation whatsoever showing that it really was a requirement at the time (and, yes, I've asked).

Google Maps closeup of the intersection in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7782332,-96.8105081,94m/data=!3m1!1e3

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2018, 04:31:59 AM »
LOL! You think that 44 m.p.h. is "too fast?" LOL!

OMG, if the vehicles were going 44mph in the following image, they'd end up playing skittles.



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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2018, 09:39:16 AM »
You are contradicting yourself in this post. "Duh" indeed. You have no way of showing that LHO ever did call EAW so it is a naked assertion. Furthermore, depending on when and where LHO would have allegedly called from EAW could have left by the time LHO got to his home.

No, this is not a good reason for LHO to have EAW's telephone number in his notebook.

I don't see any CTers supporting you in this...

Try to think rationally. Oswald might have gone over a number of times before he finally found Walker at home. But I still maintain that calling the number would be the best option.

Go ahead and tell us a better one. 
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