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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #344 on: September 22, 2018, 02:34:30 AM »
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Your trying to shift the burden. It won't work. The WC claimed in 1964 that Main Street had advantages over streets like Elm, but utterly failed to support this claim. You have also failed to support it.

Those two turns were NOT needed. End of story.

You keep making claims that you never support?

Why don't you post evidence?

JohnM

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #345 on: September 22, 2018, 03:02:35 AM »
And you know this how? I know that I'll regret that I asked.

Photos of the rifle....It's a Carcano....   You'll have to extract your head to see......

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #346 on: September 22, 2018, 07:22:29 AM »
Your trying to shift the burden. It won't work. The WC claimed in 1964 that Main Street had advantages over streets like Elm, but utterly failed to support this claim. You have also failed to support it.

Those two turns were NOT needed. End of story.
The extra turns in Ft Worth weren't absolutely required, either. But there they happened all the same. Therefore, the Rob Caprio-devised standard of minimizing turns wasn't used in planning Presidential motorcades. They had their own standards, based primarily on the realities of 1963 politics, and not on some invented latter-day Caprian notion of proper protocol.

Anyway, you are the guy claiming that the straight-up-your-Elm-bub route was so superior that the Main-Houston-Elm router should not have been used. It is up to you to prove it. And you have to prove it to the standards of the day and place, not whatever you invent to suit yourself. You simply haven't done that, and it's your burden, kid.
 

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #347 on: September 22, 2018, 07:24:07 PM »
You keep making claims that you never support?

Why don't you post evidence?

JohnM

I have NOT made a claim. Pointing out that the WC failed to support their claim is not a new claim by me. It is simply a fact.

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #348 on: September 22, 2018, 07:26:15 PM »
Photos of the rifle....It's a Carcano....   You'll have to extract your head to see......

And that proves that there was no Mauser too how? Talk about having your head buried.

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Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?
« Reply #349 on: September 22, 2018, 07:27:12 PM »
The extra turns in Ft Worth weren't absolutely required, either. But there they happened all the same. Therefore, the Rob Caprio-devised standard of minimizing turns wasn't used in planning Presidential motorcades. They had their own standards, based primarily on the realities of 1963 politics, and not on some invented latter-day Caprian notion of proper protocol.

Anyway, you are the guy claiming that the straight-up-your-Elm-bub route was so superior that the Main-Houston-Elm router should not have been used. It is up to you to prove it. And you have to prove it to the standards of the day and place, not whatever you invent to suit yourself. You simply haven't done that, and it's your burden, kid.

So you still can't support their claim. Got it.

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« Reply #350 on: September 22, 2018, 08:23:59 PM »
The extra turns in Ft Worth weren't absolutely required, either. But there they happened all the same. Therefore, the Rob Caprio-devised standard of minimizing turns wasn't used in planning Presidential motorcades. They had their own standards, based primarily on the realities of 1963 politics, and not on some invented latter-day Caprian notion of proper protocol.

Anyway, you are the guy claiming that the straight-up-your-Elm-bub route was so superior that the Main-Houston-Elm router should not have been used. It is up to you to prove it. And you have to prove it to the standards of the day and place, not whatever you invent to suit yourself. You simply haven't done that, and it's your burden, kid.
So you still can't support their claim. Got it.
You're the one who claims that your route is so much better that the only reason They would have used it is to make it easier to shoot JFK. It's up to you to prove that. Anything else is BS on your part.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #351 on: September 22, 2018, 09:54:57 PM »
And that proves that there was no Mauser too how? Talk about having your head buried.

Duh..... I said..."Roger Craig never saw a mauser in the TSBD that afternoon, Rob....".

But perhaps you can prove that statement isn't true.....All you have to do is document that Roger Craig saw and examined a rifle that...quote...." had 7.65 Mauser stamped right there on the barrel"

IOW...   Show me WHEN Roger Craig would have seen and examined such a gun....We know from Craig's own words that it couldn't have been prior to the discovery of the Carcano.   ( Commonsense dictates that if they had found a rifle prior to finding the Carcano they wouldn't have continued searching  for a rifle)

And we have film that shows Roger Craig in the background as Day and Fritz examine the Carcano.    Since Roger Craig most certainly believed that they had found the weapon at that time he wouldn't have continued searching....And He himself said that he left the building shortly after the discovery of the rifle which photos reveal is a Carcano.

Now knock off the BS ..... Either prove that there was a Mauser found in the TSBD and Roger Craig was close enough to that Mauser that he could read the stamping on the rifle...OR be honest for once, and admit you are WRONG......