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What are the holes in Donahue's Theory?
Bill Connors:
all i could think watching it was ' agent Gilligan'
Joe Elliott:
1. The Biggest Hole is the Bronson film. It shows, that at the time of the headshot, the AR-15 was not pointed at the President. Indeed, at that time, the Secret Service agent had not even stood up and held up the AR-15 rifle.
2. The implausibility of a theory, that a Secret Service Agent, actually fired a shot and no one saw it or recorded it on film.
3. The implausibility of a theory, that a Secret Service Agent, accidently fired a shot, and by random luck, even though he was about 20 feet away, the shot struck the President in the head. The odds of this are less than one in ten thousand. The surface area of a sphere with a radius of 20 feet is 4 * PI * 20**2 or about 5,000 square feet. The ?Target size is approximately a circle with a radius of 4 inches which is PI* .33**2 or about 0.35 feet, giving us odds of about 14,400 to one.
The Donahue Theory has about as many severe problems as any theory I have ever heard of. Max Holland?s ?The Lost Bullet? theory seems rock solid ? in comparison.
Jon Banks:
Donohue was probably correct that the fatal head shot couldn?t have come from the Manilcher Carcano.
We?ll never know because Kennedy didn?t get a proper autopsy...
Dillon Rankine:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on August 19, 2018, 08:58:26 PM ---This is overstated. One fragment, CE 567, had what was described by NARA as four small pieces of possibly organic material, examination of which showed that the material consisted of human tissue in varying states of preservation. This was in 1999. As far as I know, the source of the tissue was never identified.
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What?s overstated? They couldn?t identify from whom the tissue originated, nor its anatomical generator(s). Dr. Zimmerman (the histopathologist) specifically said it was human skin and muscle tissue.
See 3:45 onwards
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm5lfD-mFvU
Jerry Organ:
--- Quote from: Jon Banks on August 20, 2018, 02:15:31 AM ---Donohue was probably correct that the fatal head shot couldn?t have come from the Manilcher Carcano.
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Donahue describes in his book and displays in the photo-section an HSCA ballistic gelatin test showing an AR-15 bullet disintegrating which he liken to the metal fragmentation seen in the Kennedy skull X-rays. By contrast, Donahue showed the photo from a similar test for a 6.5mm Carcano bullet; it remained intact.
The primary problem with all that (which eluded Donahue (a gunsmith expert) and McLaren (a crime and weapon expert) is that there was no simulant for hard tissue (ie: skull bone). The gelatin tests in Donahue's book simulated soft tissue only. McLaren's own test was to fire a 6.5mm bullet through a melon; again, no hard tissue simulant (the melon rind is not equal to skull bone tissue). Donahue and McLaren were certainly respected experts in their fields, just that one of their fields didn't include terminal ballistics.
This happens when people become wedded to a pet theory. Their judgment is clouded (see Mason Theory). Donahue was shown the Bronson film, disbelieved what they trying to explain to him, and still his publisher issued the paperback version. McLaren may even be worst; he must have seen the Bronson film more times than Donahue and had a few decades of having problems with the theory pointed out.
--- Quote ---We?ll never know because Kennedy didn?t get a proper autopsy...
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Yeah, sure.
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