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What are the holes in Donahue's Theory?
Walt Blackadar:
Howard Donahue's theory of a Secret Service agent accidentally discharging his AR-15 is a theory that seems to fit many of the facts of this case. Donahue wasn't a conspiracy theorist. He was a ballistics expert who went a long way in proving that (1) it is physically possible to get off the shots in the timeframe and still be accurate and (2) showed how the Magic Bullet Theory could actually happen. His theories are often used to try to prove the Warren Commission's version. But of course he also disputed the fatal shot and instead indicated it came from the Secret Service car given the trajectory of the shot and the damage caused by a frangible bullet.
This theory also would be consistent with those witnesses who say they smelled gunpowder, those who saw the SS Agent (Hickey) holding a weapon, John Connolly's own testimony, the large number of witnesses who said they heard shots from the grassy knoll (due to acoustics this is what likely would happen from a shot within the motorcade) the actions of the SS in Parkland Hospital and a host of other discrepancies that have always been troubling.
I know it's troubling for some that this could have simply been a horrible accident in the end. I've heard this theory being outright dismissed but never based on the evidence. In fact I haven't found much online about this at all. So from a relatively newbish standpoint, what are the substantial holes in Donahue's theory (later backed by Colin McLaren) based on the known evidence of the assassination?
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Walt Blackadar on August 19, 2018, 12:16:38 AM ---Howard Donahue's theory of a Secret Service agent accidentally discharging his AR-15 is a theory that seems to fit many of the facts of this case. Donahue wasn't a conspiracy theorist. He was a ballistics expert who went a long way in proving that (1) it is physically possible to get off the shots in the timeframe and still be accurate and (2) showed how the Magic Bullet Theory could actually happen. His theories are often used to try to prove the Warren Commission's version. But of course he also disputed the fatal shot and instead indicated it came from the Secret Service car given the trajectory of the shot and the damage caused by a frangible bullet.
This theory also would be consistent with those witnesses who say they smelled gunpowder, those who saw the SS Agent (Hickey) holding a weapon, John Connolly's own testimony, the large number of witnesses who said they heard shots from the grassy knoll (due to acoustics this is what likely would happen from a shot within the motorcade) the actions of the SS in Parkland Hospital and a host of other discrepancies that have always been troubling.
I know it's troubling for some that this could have simply been a horrible accident in the end. I've heard this theory being outright dismissed but never based on the evidence. In fact I haven't found much online about this at all. So from a relatively newbish standpoint, what are the substantial holes in Donahue's theory (later backed by Colin McLaren) based on the known evidence of the assassination?
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There is NOT a single photo that shows weapons in the hands of the Secret Service agents in the Queen Mary at the time of the murder.
Dillon Rankine:
--- Quote from: Walt Blackadar on August 19, 2018, 12:16:38 AM ---Howard Donahue's theory of a Secret Service agent accidentally discharging his AR-15 is a theory that seems to fit many of the facts of this case. Donahue wasn't a conspiracy theorist. He was a ballistics expert who went a long way in proving that (1) it is physically possible to get off the shots in the timeframe and still be accurate and (2) showed how the Magic Bullet Theory could actually happen. His theories are often used to try to prove the Warren Commission's version. But of course he also disputed the fatal shot and instead indicated it came from the Secret Service car given the trajectory of the shot and the damage caused by a frangible bullet.
This theory also would be consistent with those witnesses who say they smelled gunpowder, those who saw the SS Agent (Hickey) holding a weapon, John Connolly's own testimony, the large number of witnesses who said they heard shots from the grassy knoll (due to acoustics this is what likely would happen from a shot within the motorcade) the actions of the SS in Parkland Hospital and a host of other discrepancies that have always been troubling.
I know it's troubling for some that this could have simply been a horrible accident in the end. I've heard this theory being outright dismissed but never based on the evidence. In fact I haven't found much online about this at all. So from a relatively newbish standpoint, what are the substantial holes in Donahue's theory (later backed by Colin McLaren) based on the known evidence of the assassination?
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He proposed that the fragments from the Oswald rifle found in the front of the limo were from a missed shot that hit the pavement. In 2000, histological analysis disclosed that the had human skin tissue attached.
Some reasons to dispute a CE-399-SBT can be found in this post I made: https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1123.0.html
There?s no reason to believe that anyone actually smelled gunpowder. The context of hearing gunfire would alter the manner in which the brain processes olfactory information, making exhaust fumes (for example) be perceived as gunpowder (predictive coding theory).
Donahue used the double-bang to evidence his idea, yet his model has 3 well spaced shots.
There?s other reasons to dispute the theory.
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Dillon Rankine on August 19, 2018, 02:15:16 PM ---In 2000, histological analysis disclosed that the had human skin tissue attached.
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This is overstated. One fragment, CE 567, had what was described by NARA as four small pieces of possibly organic material, examination of which showed that the material consisted of human tissue in varying states of preservation. This was in 1999. As far as I know, the source of the tissue was never identified.
Barry Pollard:
First thing I even knew about it was from watching the "Smoking Gun" when it aired, interesting production but ultimately, when I saw it happen
https://youtu.be/s5_Fw-ewClc?t=1h24m13s
I knew, that's not what happened. I just couldn't buy it. Seeing Colin walking around the plaza eyeballng everything for the cameras didn't help.
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