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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2019, 09:45:32 PM »
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Seems most of the eye-shielding people are looking towards the south. Nearly all those in the Altgens photo looking to the southwest, as the Sniper's Nest gunman would have been, are facing away from the sun and not shielding their eyes.

So when you wrote "How could a gunman make any kind of an accurate shot facing into such glare?" you either didn't think about the angle of the sun and it's relationship to the limousine position on Elm, or you think a gunman was aiming at the motorcade down Houston Street or towards the reflecting pool.

A teachable moment if you want to grasp it.  ::)

           If you buy into the way the boxes were set up inside the sniper's nest then Oswald would have been seated a few feet Back from the window. I would doubt the Sun would be a factor if he were seated back from the window. A difficult scenario to envision is how if Oswald was Seated a few feet Back from the window he was able to Fire DOWNWARD at a sharp angle with the 1st alleged shot. 
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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2019, 11:54:01 PM »
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Seems most of the eye-shielding people are looking towards the south. Nearly all those in the Altgens photo looking to the southwest, as the Sniper's Nest gunman would have been, are facing away from the sun and not shielding their eyes.
So when you wrote "How could a gunman make any kind of an accurate shot facing into such glare?" you either didn't think about the angle of the sun and it's relationship to the limousine position on Elm, or you think a gunman was aiming at the motorcade down Houston Street or towards the reflecting pool. A teachable moment if you want to grasp it.
Teachable? Meaning- just look at a map and never mind a photograph? Facing away from the sun? The person in the Altgens photo-- on the front steps apparently shielding his eyes with both hands [between Lovelady and the SS agents on the right side of their car]..  is not looking at the motorcade? 
The shadow from the running man illustrates the direction of the sun ...directly towards the suspected window--

   

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2019, 12:11:07 AM »
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           If you buy into the way the boxes were set up inside the sniper's nest then Oswald would have been seated a few feet Back from the window. I would doubt the Sun would be a factor if he were seated back from the window. A difficult scenario to envision is how if Oswald was Seated a few feet Back from the window he was able to Fire DOWNWARD at a sharp angle with the 1st alleged shot.

 



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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2019, 12:47:10 AM »
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Teachable? Meaning- just look at a map and never mind a photograph? Facing away from the sun? The person in the Altgens photo-- on the front steps apparently shielding his eyes with both hands [between Lovelady and the SS agents on the right side of their car]..  is not looking at the motorcade?

Maybe he had his hands up earlier when the limousine went by and figured he'll turn back and see who else was in the motorcade. So he left his hands in place for the hell of it. Maybe the sun felt good on his forearms.

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The shadow from the running man illustrates the direction of the sun ...directly towards the suspected window--

   

Wrong. The sun doesn't shine directly up Elm Street until about 2:30.



The picture above was taken just after the shooting, and the shadows project across Elm, not up Elm and into the SN windows.



If the sun was shining straight up Elm and into the SN, wouldn't the shadow on the limousine be projecting backwards from Altgens? Instead the car's shadow projects across Elm.

 

Just picture after picture of shadows projecting across Elm at about the time of the shooting.

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2019, 12:50:07 AM »
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           If you buy into the way the boxes were set up inside the sniper's nest then Oswald would have been seated a few feet Back from the window. I would doubt the Sun would be a factor if he were seated back from the window. A difficult scenario to envision is how if Oswald was Seated a few feet Back from the window he was able to Fire DOWNWARD at a sharp angle with the 1st alleged shot.
Lets take another look..


It was reported by witnesses that a man was standing at that spot. Well maybe so. Look at the shadows on the left side of the sill and under the box. Looks contrived/staged to me. I believe it was...at a different time of day.
What does CE 887 prove?...that with all the boxes out of the way, you can get a good angle down to the street?

They even got a guy that looks like Oswald for added effect.

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Maybe he had his hands up earlier when the limousine went by and figured he'll turn back and see who else was in the motorcade. So he left his hands in place for the hell of it. Maybe the sun felt good on his forearms.
"For the hell of it"? Who are you trying to convince?
 

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Re: Who is this fellow... and why does he look away from the president?
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2019, 05:09:52 AM »
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      Now show me where a Tripod which was allegedly attached to the Carcano was recovered inside the TSBD. This is the kind of Hokum that J Edgar and The Boys repeatedly threw out there during the construction of the Warren Report. Same goes for the reconstruction they filmed of Oswald alleging traveling from the snipers nest down to the 2nd floor lunch room. Unabashed  BS:

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