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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2018, 04:53:27 AM »
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Well, this topic had just about the mystery and excitement of a used condom.
Featuring the Three Amigos and their Musketeer [Oswald did it] friends.
Surprisingly, there was no rifle photo links supplied [after 21 pages of drivel]
The Randle house pictures....were silly.
 The proposed paper sack photos would show the ludicrous concept of smuggling a disassembled rifle through the entry of a workplace -completely unobserved.

  Dan Rather demonstrates how a bag containing suspect hardware might appear....
 



Where is the FBI or Dallas Police demonstration of the presumed packaging of a dismantled rifle?
Of course, a rifle scope would be rendered useless rattling around the package.

Below is 'the paper bag' concealing a dangerous broom handle.


 




Thanks for the bump and I'm sure your CT friends will be really impressed with you describing their contributions as drivel.



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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #211 on: June 14, 2018, 02:28:50 PM »
John, it looks like Dan's bag is sealed at both ends. Care to provide any evidence that both ends of CE142 were ever in that condition? Or maybe Oswald believed gravity would suffice.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #212 on: June 15, 2018, 04:40:40 AM »
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Thanks for the bump and I'm sure your CT friends will be really impressed with you describing their contributions as drivel.



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After reviewing the thread...and the idea that Oswald spirited a disassembled rifle to the car and to the building and through the building without getting quizzed -'Hey whatcha got there?'...by anybody....is comical at best.
Drivel?...Oh I'm guilty too maybe..occasionally                         

Did we not see the video I posted where Wes Frazier renounced his entire testimony [now that he feels safe to do so] ??

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #213 on: June 15, 2018, 05:03:01 AM »
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John, it looks like Dan's bag is sealed at both ends. Care to provide any evidence that both ends of CE142 were ever in that condition? Or maybe Oswald believed gravity would suffice.

I assume the official story has Oswald manufacturing the bag on site on Thursday. At that time he seals one end with a flap structure and leaves the other end open. In doing so he also creates a bag with determined width and a length that cannot accommodate the fully assembled rifle. Was the width also able to accommodate an assembled rifle ie. with scope attached?

I can see no evidence of any defined fold at the open and of the bag. Would not the disassembled rifle not have allowed for a fold down of one or 2 inches?

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #214 on: June 15, 2018, 05:44:02 AM »
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John, it looks like Dan's bag is sealed at both ends. Care to provide any evidence that both ends of CE142 were ever in that condition? Or maybe Oswald believed gravity would suffice.


We know from both Linnie and Buell that Oswald carried a long bag which he put on the backseat of Frazier's car but Oswald denied both innocent events, why on Earth would Oswald feel compelled to lie about the purely mundane?


Mr. BALL. When you did ask him about the sack, you did ask him about it, a sack at one time bringing a sack to work that morning?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes; I did.
Mr. BALL. And you asked him the size and shape of the sack, didn't you?
Mr. FRITZ. He never admitted bringing the sack. I showed him the size probably in asking him if he brought a sack that size and he denied it. He said he brought his lunch was all he brought.
Mr. BALL. Didn't he say when you asked him the size and shape of the sack that he had with him, he said, "I don't recall, it may have been a small sack or a large sack. You don't always find one that fits your sandwiches," something like that.
Mr. FRITZ. That might be true but he said it was a small sack. He said it was a lunch sack.
Mr. BALL. Didn't you ask him where he usually kept his sacks, how he carried it when he came to work in the car?
Mr. FRITZ. I asked him where he had the sack---his lunch, and he said he had it in the front seat with him.
Mr. BALL. Did you ask him if he put any sack in the back seat?
Mr. FRITZ. He said he did not.



Mr. BELIN. What was that about curtain rods?
Mr. HOLMES. Asked him if he brought a sack out when he got in the car with this young fellow that hauled him and he said, "Yes."
"What was in the sack?"
"Well, my lunch."
"What size sack did you have?"
He said, "Oh, I don't know what size sack. You don't always get a sack that fits your sandwiches. It might be a big sack."
"Was it a long sack?''
"Well, it could have been"
"What did you do with it?"
"Carried it in my lap."
"You didn't put it over in the back seat?"
"No." He said he wouldn't have done that.
"Well, someone said the fellow that hauled you said you had a long package which you said was curtain rods you were taking to somebody at work and you laid it over on the back seat."
He said, "Well, they was just mistaken. That must have been some other time he picked me up."
That is all he said about it.




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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #215 on: June 15, 2018, 06:26:08 AM »
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We know from both Linnie and Buell that Oswald carried a long bag which he put on the backseat of Frazier's car but Oswald denied both innocent events, why on Earth would Oswald feel compelled to lie about the purely mundane?


Mr. BALL. When you did ask him about the sack, you did ask him about it, a sack at one time bringing a sack to work that morning?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes; I did.
Mr. BALL. And you asked him the size and shape of the sack, didn't you?
Mr. FRITZ. He never admitted bringing the sack. I showed him the size probably in asking him if he brought a sack that size and he denied it. He said he brought his lunch was all he brought.
Mr. BALL. Didn't he say when you asked him the size and shape of the sack that he had with him, he said, "I don't recall, it may have been a small sack or a large sack. You don't always find one that fits your sandwiches," something like that.
Mr. FRITZ. That might be true but he said it was a small sack. He said it was a lunch sack.
Mr. BALL. Didn't you ask him where he usually kept his sacks, how he carried it when he came to work in the car?
Mr. FRITZ. I asked him where he had the sack---his lunch, and he said he had it in the front seat with him.
Mr. BALL. Did you ask him if he put any sack in the back seat?
Mr. FRITZ. He said he did not.



Mr. BELIN. What was that about curtain rods?
Mr. HOLMES. Asked him if he brought a sack out when he got in the car with this young fellow that hauled him and he said, "Yes."
"What was in the sack?"
"Well, my lunch."
"What size sack did you have?"
He said, "Oh, I don't know what size sack. You don't always get a sack that fits your sandwiches. It might be a big sack."
"Was it a long sack?''
"Well, it could have been"
"What did you do with it?"
"Carried it in my lap."
"You didn't put it over in the back seat?"
"No." He said he wouldn't have done that.
"Well, someone said the fellow that hauled you said you had a long package which you said was curtain rods you were taking to somebody at work and you laid it over on the back seat."
He said, "Well, they was just mistaken. That must have been some other time he picked me up."
That is all he said about it.




JohnM

Care to provide any evidence that both ends of CE142 were ever sealed? The pictures I have seen appear otherwise.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #216 on: June 15, 2018, 06:44:18 AM »
A short digression Colin; is that Don Chipp you use in your profile?

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #217 on: June 15, 2018, 06:50:22 AM »
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Care to provide any evidence that both ends of CE142 were ever sealed? The pictures I have seen appear otherwise.




Why are you avoiding the most important evidence?

Oswald LIED!

WHY?



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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #218 on: June 15, 2018, 07:17:59 AM »
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Why are you avoiding the most important evidence?

Oswald LIED!

WHY?



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Seasoned forum members will know who the liar is.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #219 on: June 15, 2018, 07:26:33 AM »
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Seasoned forum members will know who the liar is.



Why can't you answer the question?

Oswald LIED!

WHY?



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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #219 on: June 15, 2018, 07:26:33 AM »