Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2018, 06:50:13 AM »
The slats are all angled - just exactly what do you think she saw with a brief view from her limited POV?



OMG Tony, Linnie couldn't be more clear, she saw Oswald go to the right rear door of Frazier's car and put a package in, then when Frazier gets in Frazier sees the package on the back seat. 

Mr. BALL. Did you see him go to the car?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did he do?
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was laying the package down

Mr. BALL. He put the package in the car.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir;

Senator COOPER. I mean did you see him throw open the. door?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.


Btw how did Linnie know that Oswald put the package on the back seat which was only later confirmed by Buell.

RANDLE stated that about 7:15 a.m., November 22, 1963, she looked out of a window of her residence and observed LEE HARVEY OSWALD walking up her driveway and saw him put a long brown package, approximately 3 feet by 6 inches, in the back seat area of WESLEY FRAZIER's 1954 black Chevrolet four door automobile.



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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2018, 12:51:43 PM »
A little bit of rain wont be an issue for a small paper bag that Lee could tuck under his armpit and cup it in his palm, right? His jacket would have shielded it. Lee may have suspected that BWF was waiting for him in the carport.

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; it didn't. I just thought maybe, you know, he just left a little bit earlier but when I looked up and saw that the clock was. I knew I was the one who was running a little bit late because, as I say, I was talking, sitting there eating breakfast and talking to the little nieces, it was later than I thought it was.

LMR told us this from her WC testimony.

Mrs. RANDLE. No; because I only opened the door briefly and what made me establish the door on Wesley's car, it is an old car and that door, the window is broken and everything and it is hard to close, so that cinched in my mind which door it was, too. But it was only briefly that I looked.


We don't know how hard it was raining when Lee walked from the house of Paine to  Frazier's car......

A little bit of rain wont be an issue for a small paper bag that Lee could tuck under his armpit and cup it in his palm, right? His jacket would have shielded it.

I believe that is exactly why Lee carried the flimsy brown paper sack under his arm...... He didn't want his lunch to fall out of a wet paper sack.


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2018, 07:59:56 PM »






Note slats...
« Last Edit: January 14, 2018, 08:09:31 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2018, 08:07:25 PM »
Close but no cigar.

"I didn't recognize him" is exactly how she put it. So why did she say that to BALL when there is nothing about not recognizing Oswald in neither her AFFIDAVIT nor in the BOOKHAUT report?

Because even if Oswald was a semi-stranger she would have no reason to move to the back door to check on him since she had been told that Oswald picked up curtain rods, hence the long bag; still trying to improve on the tale as she couldn't have seen Oswald by the car unless she moved to the door.

I seriously doubt Frazier would expect a dime store bag to fit a random set of curtain rods, would you?

Note BTW that BALL carefully avoids asking LMR when and to whom she initially volunteers information about the bag...
 

So you're speaking for Frazier. And Randle. Got it.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2018, 08:22:23 PM »

So you're speaking for Frazier. And Randle. Got it.


Why not?

When Frazier himself speaks you guys claim he is lying "mistaken"....

So, what difference does it make?

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2018, 08:40:25 PM »
And btw, the partition between Linnie Mae and Frazier's car was made up of slats and was not a solid wall.


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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2018, 08:43:02 PM »


Oswald was no longer getting his laundry done at Ruth Paine's. He was doing it himself in Oak Cliff.



Please expand Jerry. When did he stop getting his laundry done at the Paine's?