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Offline Jake Maxwell

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The Warren Commission's exhibits #386 and #388 show the initial medical depictions of Kennedy's wounds and the supposed path of the fatal bullet from the rear. If this drawing has any credibility, it is absolutely ridiculous to think Kennedy was killed by an Oswald shot from the sixth floor. The transparency image below, from Z frame #312, right before the fatal shot, makes this very clear.

We have only three options when considering the Warren Commission's initial supposed bullet trajectory, IMO (SEE Jerry Organ post below):
1) Someone in the rear vehicle killed him (certainly no one from the sixth floor)
2) Frames have been left out of Zapruder (and other films) showing that the president was actually bent over much further
3) The medical drawing was made to look like JFK took a shot from the rear



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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 06:12:19 PM »
Oh yes... I left out another option... there were at least TWO magic bullets!

Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 10:17:33 PM »
The HSCA rejected the WC/Humes skull inshoot location. Instead, the Committee's Medical Evidence Panel accepted the Clark Panel finding that the entry wound was further up on the skull than that described by Humes and depicted in the WCR.



The graphic below shows the head tilt with the trajectory slope from the Oswald window.



Many CTs and a few LNers, including Larry Sturdivan, believe Humes got the skull inshoot location more-or-less correct.


In the 2013 NOVA documentary "Cold Case JFK" ( Link ), Studivan's claim was supposedly substantiated by forensic pathologist Peter Cummings, who traced skull fracture lines seen on the autopsy X-rays. The YouTube video above, was presented by the "Boston Globe" and was not part of the televised program.

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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 11:14:14 PM »
More cognitive dissonance and doubt.

Where are the photographs the autopsy doctors had taken of the fatal wound in JFK's skull that show the

inside and outside veiw of the bullet hole at the EOP?

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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2018, 12:53:09 AM »
Jerry, Thanks for this helpful information. It does raise a few questions about whether some might have tried to re-interpret the wounds to be more compatible with a sixth floor fatal shot.... HOWEVER, if I'm seeing things correctly, the re-interpretation is just as bad in trying to line things up with a sixth floor shot. NOTE how the HSCA graphic you provided, in transparency with a purple arrow, compares with your image tracing out the shot with a yellow arrow. It really looks like the re-interpreted angle from proposed entry and exit would require a helicopter shot...!
Am I missing something here?


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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2018, 02:37:21 PM »
Does the HSCA suggested trajectory (purple arrow) look like the fatal bullet could have come from the sixth floor of the TSBD?


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Re: The bullet trajectory - ridiculously impossible from the rear!
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 03:30:43 PM »
So... you're wedded to the HSCA outshoot site?

You're fairly alone on that. The HSCA based its outshoot on what they thought they saw on an autopsy photograph: "a semicircular defect which appears to be beveled outward" and "part of the perimeter of the exit hole is visible along the margin of the defect." Even if it was a bevel feature from an exiting metallic fragment, it wouldn't mean that particular fragment had remained on its original trajectory, being deflected on entering the inshoot site.

Trying to establish a singular outshoot site is pointless. If there are impacts from exiting fragments, one doesn't know how deflected the fragments were. As well, an exit point might have been blasted away and not present in the medical evidence.

If one applies the WC trajectory slope to the Clark Panel/HSCA skull inshoot site, the center of the trajectory continues on to where we see the skull's explosive effect in Z313.

 

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 03:49:42 PM »
Jerry, Am I mistaken here... Is this not from the Clark Panel finding referenced in your post above?

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