Four times Toni Foster said, "The car stopped!"

[Jack Trojan]

Why didn't Greer stop the limo for the first shot? Did he wait until Kennedy was shot until he decided to stop/slow down the limo ? Was he waiting for the "stickman" in the infield area to signal him  ? Inquiring kook bags need answers.

Here are some kook bag answers for you Proctoboy.  Let's begin with the most likely premise, that this was a conspiracy. All but the LNers think Oswald acted alone. The rest of the world thinks he was a patsy. The conspirators empowered you LNer shills to be the DWC (Defenders of the Warren Commission). Your mission was to extend the debate just long enough for all involved to croak. So far, so good, your efforts have managed to provide token opposition and cast doubt on the conspiracy to almost call this one a 100% successful coup d'etat. Only GHWB remains to stick a fork in this one. Once all the conspirators are dead and they get off scott-free, 100% win! But that's like a no-hitter going into the 9th. Otherwise, the conspirators won this one clean when the foxes formed the WC hen house.

Why didn't Greer stop the limo for the first shot?

Where/when was that?

• Then ask Greer why he stopped the limo when turning onto Elm?
• Then ask yourself why Oswald didn't take a shot with JFK 60 feet directly in front of him at a dead stop?
• Then ask yourself why the FBI cut out that section of the Z film?

Did he wait until Kennedy was shot until he decided to stop/slow down the limo ?

No, Greer knew the exact place on Elm to slow the limo down to, the Turkey Shoot Point (TSP). Whether Greer knew why he was slowing the limo down is unknown. Same as the SS agent that got called off of the back of the limo and responded with WTF open arms. Obviously, some SS agents were in on it and some weren't. I doubt that any of them knew how deep the rabbit hole went, they were just pawns with minimal need to know info re the coup. Once it all went down, they were committed to STFU.

So why do I claim the Z film was edited? Because there are obvious splice points in the film and Zapruder did not recall taking his finger off the camera trigger as the motorcade turned onto Elm. But the most important aspect is that the Z film is missing the "1st Overexposure Frame" when you stop then start a film camera. The Z film that we see is clearly a copy and the turn onto Elm has been erased. So what happened at the turn onto Elm and why didn't Oswald take the 1st shot?

JFK wasn't killed until he reached the TSP so the conspirators could paint the narrative that Oswald was shooting at him from the TSBD. The TSP was designed to allow the snipers full access to JFK and if you timed it right, you could make 3 or 4 shots sound like 1, which was the case. One of those shots was from the knoll and it was frangible. This shot blew out a gaping hole in the right temple of JFK. A simultaneous shot from the overpass likely created the hole in the back of JFK's head (which the medicos and Z film editors tried their darndest to erase from the records).

With so much other evidence pointing to Oswald being a patsy, why do you cling to the LN narrative, Proctoboy?

[Richard Rubio]

Yet, 5, F-I-V-E governmental studies say Oswald did it (wikipedia entry for Oswald), I guess all of the studies are tainted and they are all on the take.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/11/poll-jfk-conspiracy/2152665/

One can say the Lone Nut or Warren Report single bullet believers are in the minority but how does it shake out when the conspiracies one puts out then are:

1. CIA, rogue government elements
2. Mafia/Organized Crime
3. Castro's Cuba....
4. Other theories

Then, the percentages may well come to be similar to those who believe in the LN.

" Five government investigations[n 1] concluded that Oswald shot and killed Kennedy from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository as the President traveled by motorcade through Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas." -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

[John Mytton]

Because what we see was edited and copied with an optical printer.

OMG not again, with absolutely no supporting evidence whatsoever yet another Trojan claim. We have already established that you have no idea of what an "optical printer" does or what it is used for and now you are claiming that the Zapruder Film has been edited with an Optical Printer and again with only empty words.

Time to put up or shut up, what evidence do you have that the Zapruder film has been edited?

JohnM

[Steve Logan]

Here are some kook bag answers for you Proctoboy.  Let's begin with the most likely premise, that this was a conspiracy. All but the LNers think Oswald acted alone. The rest of the world thinks he was a patsy. The conspirators empowered you LNer shills to be the DWC (Defenders of the Warren Commission). Your mission was to extend the debate just long enough for all involved to croak. So far, so good, your efforts have managed to provide token opposition and cast doubt on the conspiracy to almost call this one a 100% successful coup d'etat. Only GHWB remains to stick a fork in this one. Once all the conspirators are dead and they get off scott-free, 100% win! But that's like a no-hitter going into the 9th. Otherwise, the conspirators won this one clean when the foxes formed the WC hen house.

Why didn't Greer stop the limo for the first shot?

Where/when was that?

• Then ask Greer why he stopped the limo when turning onto Elm?
• Then ask yourself why Oswald didn't take a shot with JFK 60 feet directly in front of him at a dead stop?
• Then ask yourself why the FBI cut out that section of the Z film?

Did he wait until Kennedy was shot until he decided to stop/slow down the limo ?

No, Greer knew the exact place on Elm to slow the limo down to, the Turkey Shoot Point (TSP). Whether Greer knew why he was slowing the limo down is unknown. Same as the SS agent that got called off of the back of the limo and responded with WTF open arms. Obviously, some SS agents were in on it and some weren't. I doubt that any of them knew how deep the rabbit hole went, they were just pawns with minimal need to know info re the coup. Once it all went down, they were committed to STFU.

So why do I claim the Z film was edited? Because there are obvious splice points in the film and Zapruder did not recall taking his finger off the camera trigger as the motorcade turned onto Elm. But the most important aspect is that the Z film is missing the "1st Overexposure Frame" when you stop then start a film camera. The Z film that we see is clearly a copy and the turn onto Elm has been erased. So what happened at the turn onto Elm and why didn't Oswald take the 1st shot?

JFK wasn't killed until he reached the TSP so the conspirators could paint the narrative that Oswald was shooting at him from the TSBD. The TSP was designed to allow the snipers full access to JFK and if you timed it right, you could make 3 or 4 shots sound like 1, which was the case. One of those shots was from the knoll and it was frangible. This shot blew out a gaping hole in the right temple of JFK. A simultaneous shot from the overpass likely created the hole in the back of JFK's head (which the medicos and Z film editors tried their darndest to erase from the records).

With so much other evidence pointing to Oswald being a patsy, why do you cling to the LN narrative, Proctoboy?

You're a sick man Daffy. Seek advice. So you're backing about 6 or seven different kook theories and wrapping it up in what is now known as The Daffy Theory. Multiple shooters, sheep dipped, rabbit hole, films altered, SS compliance, coup d'?tat,    OMFG you are one of those all-star nuts. You're a scary dude. I hope we're tracking you offline too.

[John Iacoletti]

You lot assign agency to every little detail. But incompetence needs no plan.

Says the guy who assigns agency to every little thing Oswald happened to do that day.

[John Iacoletti]

Yet, 5, F-I-V-E governmental studies say Oswald did it (wikipedia entry for Oswald),

LOL "Five government investigations".  As if they were independent investigations.  As if the Secret Service and the Dallas PD even did investigations.

[Bill Brown]

You mean like lumping "saw Tippit shot" with "saw a man nearby"?

The witnesses only "saw a man nearby"?  Really?

Why did you leave out "running from the scene" and "with a gun in his hands"?

You're a joke because you're dishonest.

[John Mytton]

LOL "Five government investigations".  As if they were independent investigations.  As if the Secret Service and the Dallas PD even did investigations.

 

If you can't even trust your own government, then why stay?

JohnM